The solution for SM

[BLiNNeMaNS]

lol @ 1st post and post title..

You're entirely wrong.. The proposed "solution" is actually a game killer b4 it's been released.

a huge part of the current tm community got in touch with the game through the free to play eswc version of the game.
Most of these players were into ut/hl/quake etc at that time.

This is exactly why i think shootmania can and probably will be a success..
Due to playing trackmania for the past years, we shooter players kinda skipped a big part of the tactical shooter hype. Therefor a shooter like shootmania will make it a lot easier to rediscover the 1st person shooter genre as it's closer to the game we left for trackmania.

[alonsega]

lol @ 1st post and post title..

You're entirely wrong.. The proposed "solution" is actually a game killer b4 it's been released.

a huge part of the current tm community got in touch with the game through the free to play eswc version of the game.
Most of these players were into ut/hl/quake etc at that time.

This is exactly why i think shootmania can and probably will be a success..
Due to playing trackmania for the past years, we shooter players kinda skipped a big part of the tactical shooter hype. Therefor a shooter like shootmania will make it a lot easier to rediscover the 1st person shooter genre as it's closer to the game we left for trackmania.

Well you may have a point, I wouldnt know cause Im not that big of a shooter fan.
I just tried to think what would get me, and TM players like me, who are not big shooter fans, to like SM as well.

Thought about it some more, and I reckon maybe the checkpoints are not necessary cause the enemys ARE the checkpoints.

Creating bots means more development time and cost, I understand that, but it also makes the solo mode possible.

Just note that my purposal does not require AI, cause I purposed that the bots will have a constant path, which will be predetermined as part of building a map, I think this can be a lot of fun to build as well as play.

[BLiNNeMaNS]

ehr.. about the bots

Speculations, It doesn't necessarily mean these triggers will be used
(doesn't even mean they still exist in the .exe as the extract was done during the multiplayer beta in august. All was extracted from ManiaPlanet.exe):

Anyways:

Quoted Arc_ on Mania Creative:

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2D008000 CSmPlayer
        2D00800D float BotAgressivity
        2D00800E int BotAgressivityDoublingTime
        2D00800F int BotPathOffset
        2D008010 float BotPathSpeedCoef

Ok, so we will have AI players.



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[xGEKKOx]

Well, i'm not a FPS fan, i only play real FPS like ARMA, ARMA2, ARMA3... and i don't like cod, and the others.
Also i don't like the 3D games too much, maybe cause i come from old games and maybe cause i know they're not real.
Anyway for me an fps, to have success, must be based on multiplayer. The solo mode is useless i think, since 4/5 years and Trackmania ESWC was the first to show.
But i agree on the point that SM will have success based on TM success, and if we imagine it would be released tomorrow, it wouldn't.
Christmas is behind the door, no news at all, i think an advertising campaign for that period is needed, or the game will be bought only by someone who play TM2.
In the same time we need the ManiaPlanet 2.0 upgrade, and i mean before SM come out.
We will wait Hylis news to see how the thing will evolve.

[Ripbox]

SM will not be like Cod of BF and players will not buy Cod or BF for the solo but for the multiplayer and they don't have bots in multiplayer.

SM is make for competitions like CS but not the same game.

Ummm YUP i did buy them for the SOLO play...... and will continue to do so.... so you have no grounds for saying we dont buy them for solo
Yes its nice to have Multiplay but in my opinion a game isn't a game without a solo game

[db89]

Ummm YUP i did buy them for the SOLO play...... and will continue to do so.... so you have no grounds for saying we dont buy them for solo
Yes its nice to have Multiplay but in my opinion a game isn't a game without a solo game

+1 If SM is only online, I will NOT buy it.

[alonsega]

+1 If SM is only online, I will NOT buy it.

+2

[Ripbox]

I just wanted to add..... If SM becomes only Multilayer with no solo missions..... game servers "Will Be Cracked" without a shadow of doubt
If this is the case then it will have adverse effects on the actual sales of Genuine copies of SM as many will just play with cracked servers with most game limitations altered of which in many cases will render the original servers inferior and less appealing
As it seems.... the more you take away form the player..... the more you restrict a game.... the more challenging it becomes to the Hackers and Crackers = game fail/flop
I for one do not want this to happen but if your say look what i have, but im not gonna show you! the more people will want to see = then more willing they are to see it and experience it threw less legitimate means

Ummm YUP i did buy them for the SOLO play...... and will continue to do so.... so you have no grounds for saying we dont buy them for solo
Yes its nice to have Multiplay but in my opinion a game isn't a game without a solo game

+1 If SM is only online, I will NOT buy it.

It wasn't exactly what i was saying, however somewhat true
What i was saying is i do buy games for their solo mode as much as i buy them for their muliplayer mode
Again going back to what i said prior to this quote.... if it is to be a multiplayer only then i WILL look for less legitimate means in order to play & and experience it and should it not be in my opinion worth the buy then i wont support Nadeo buy making a legitimate purchase

[banjee]

I just wanted to add..... If SM becomes only Multilayer with no solo missions..... game servers "Will Be Cracked" without a shadow of doubt

What makes you say that? to me, the main audience of SM will be the TM players plus a couple more newbies, but how many cracked TM servers are there right now? just because its a shooter doesn't mean that it will attract hackers. as long as its not like combat arms....

[xGEKKOx]

LoL!!!!
Hackers don't have business into attack TM or SM servers.
Servers don't run a real money or bank account so this will never happen.