I am not happy with current state of Trackmania

[Anxiety]

insulting? that's just a fact.

opinion*

[Hylis]

in the single topic he contributes, here is what you have in few posts:
"but im pretty sure it doesn't mean anything to Nadeo, sadly. "
"because right now it's just ridiculous."
" i feel like Nadeo haven't been smart about it lately. not caring about the game or the esports community anymore"
"i don't really see the point in just kissing asses"

and this is just the short list of this topic. It has nothing to do by being against Nadeo or whatever. I agree freezone can be better. It is just the way it is negative.

Moderation means to be moderated.

That's all. Simple.

[FrostBeule]

am i allowed to address these allegations, or will my posts continue to be "moderated", thus making it pointless for me to even try?

if you guys want to know what i wrote in the post that got "moderated", you can find it on my facebook page, and you can be the judge if you think it should've been removed.

[rudiporto]

The Nadeo pays no attention to their players. The Canyon is dying slowly, see the low amount of players this past weekend. You can not say that there are people who only come to speak negative things. We have several players dissatisfied and frostbeule is only one of these and have the courage to tell it here.

[MacDuffman]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

I have come to this thread to offer a peace offering to both sides of the aisle. Stop it.

It's a blunt notion, yes, but honestly, both communities suffer from this form of argument. There is little progress when points are being ignored and logical fallacies run a muck in a thread.

The main highlights are: 1) TMNF needs to have a newly restructured Freezone. 2) TM2 needs to be developed more or must have one environment highlighted in a competitive setting, for esports. 3) TM2 can still survive having other environments being played in a public server venue.

I'd like to throw one more point though. Communication. There is a large communication gap now within the Trackmania community as a whole. Hylis, I understand that you are only one person, but I feel that this is the problem. There is little no communication and interaction between developers and community directly; most of the conversation stems from hearsay or assumptions. This has to be taken more directly because the community suffers. From small things like bug fixes and trackblocks, to larger-scale items like massive community events, car balance and the overall direction of the game, in both the public and competitive spheres, the community and developers need to work hand-in-hand. Proof of this is (like fB implicated) the success of League of Legends, the former success of CS 1.6, the original TMN/ESWC.

Both games, can survive, but only if the cards are played right.

[Hylis]

The Nadeo pays no attention to their players.

When you write this, this is insulting for the work the team does. You can say it, well, but if you repeat it and that most of your post is about this, then you need to be moderated. This is as simple as that.

Do you have any clue the work we do for players?

And I made moderation on a post that was kind of insulting towards other players that were trying to be positive, constructive.

By the way, there were more active players last month than the month before, but that's not the topic. I agreed that freezone can be better and explained that we have other topic to deal with.

[serujio]

You know, the solution to your Nations problems is simple. Instead of voting for the end of freezone, try to convince all your friends to buy the game.

The problem is that some people don´t want to pay for the game they play for hours, months or years. In Brazil we say this person is "mão de vaca" or "pão duro". It seems the translation to it is something like = they´re too cheap, or too mean, to buy the game...

Not going as far as Eyebo on the $500 , but the price of United or Canyon are at least absolutely honest.

On the esports discussion, I see that Nations is on the exact same position as CS1.6. It´s only the community that can keep the game alive in competitions, because it doesn´t make sense to Nadeo or Valve to keep promoting these games instead of their new game, and I agree with them.

And I think Nadeo is doing quite well with Canyon on esports, with the Zotac Cup, some Lan events, and probably more to come.

[Hylis]

MacDuffman, we plan to improve things when we will have time. I have explained many times that ShootMania is a target to bring more people to Maniaplanet and TrackMania, what Eyebo recalled. I have discussion with the community and I doubt that the 1113 posts I have on this forum and maybe 4000+ on others shows otherwise. Asking for things right now to be done from people that are working so hard, and being quite insulting at the same is the issue. Once it is fixed, then discussion will resume with these people. But I don't think I have stop to have them with others.

[Omnixor]

okay, gonna throw my 2 cents with a simple explanation:

what average player wants: "more blocks for Canyon, less bugs, Valley as soon as possible".

what Nadeo does: Shootmania, Questmania, titles'n'such, fancy skins every month, french LAN events...

feel free to add or disagree, just my opinion.

@hylis' latest post: updated TMNF/implemented TMUF envis would bring MUCH more people... more than anything else.

[Mandark]

I honestly think that Nadeo has more different studios.
Like, one works on monthly skins, LAN events and all these stuff, and another one focuses on Bug fixes for TM2, SM, and QM.

Just my opinion