What worries me about ShootMania (maps and guns)

[rissoxx]

Seriously, why arent we allowed to have new textures! Its getting kinda boring and frustrating to play on the same dull textures! I mean seriously, you guys really need to release some more weapons like 2-4 more and also allow to have costum textures or you something! Its not like allowing players to create a map from scratch is a bad thing! The guys that are good at map making will be able to make the maps really good but you guys are limiting the to much! Release full mod tools and stop limiting the game! Let the community make the game better! Dont make a bad game like Call of duty! Just look at how they failed on the competitive side. Its just not working that way..

I bought this game along time ago hoping that WE would be able to change the game how ever we wanted but you guys better hurry or this game probably gonna fail and we will have to wait for Reborn. Just saying.

[jonthekiller]

Seriously, why arent we allowed to have new textures! Its getting kinda boring and frustrating to play on the same dull textures! I mean seriously, you guys really need to release some more weapons like 2-4 more and also allow to have costum textures or you something! Its not like allowing players to create a map from scratch is a bad thing! The guys that are good at map making will be able to make the maps really good but you guys are limiting the to much! Release full mod tools and stop limiting the game! Let the community make the game better! Dont make a bad game like Call of duty! Just look at how they failed on the competitive side. Its just not working that way..

I bought this game along time ago hoping that WE would be able to change the game how ever we wanted but you guys better hurry or this game probably gonna fail and we will have to wait for Reborn. Just saying.

You can make textures mods already but only the author of a map or th server can use a mod, you can't use it only on your computer.

[rissoxx]

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You can make textures mods already but only the author of a map or th server can use a mod, you can't use it only on your computer.[/quote]

So if a guy decided to make a texture so the map would be like a Quake map for example. Could the textures be EXACTLY like they are in the quake map? Cus if its possible for us to make costum textures and then have them on our servers so the players can see them then thats freakin good. Would still be awesome with Mod tools so we could change some stuffs..

[Timmeh7]

you guys are limiting the to much! Release full mod tools and stop limiting the game! Let the community make the game better! Dont make a bad game like Call of duty!

Map editor + mods + gamemodes + custom objects... just saying

Its not like allowing players to create a map from scratch is a bad thing!

You're right, it's not, but it shouldn't be the approach for ShootMania. The editor is mainly made for people who can't create own models. It gives you blocks that allow everyone to quickly build a map in a simple way. It's limited by the number of blocks which seems to be a bad thing to you.
Just regarding the gameplay aspect, I don't think the blocks are too limited, I'm not "tired" of any. It's about how they're put together. Regarding the building aspect, I just can't tell how much time I spent building stuff with the exisiting blocks. I would go as far as saying that the limitation brings a very nice challenge to actually achieve what you have in mind for your map.

You can also see why building specific maps from scratch just isn't the approach for ShootMania looking at the title system. You can't build custom objects for the main title, but for custom titles. You don't create these objects to have them in one map. Well you can, but what makes more sense to me is to create an own set of blocks (just like in the main title) players can use to build maps. Same system I described as above.

You see, ShootMania lives off its blocks, lives off its editor. The building factor (for me) is just as big as the actual playing aspect.

[jonthekiller]

You can make textures mods already but only the author of a map or th server can use a mod, you can't use it only on your computer.

So if a guy decided to make a texture so the map would be like a Quake map for example. Could the textures be EXACTLY like they are in the quake map? Cus if its possible for us to make costum textures and then have them on our servers so the players can see them then thats freakin good. Would still be awesome with Mod tools so we could change some stuffs..

You have these example : http://www.maniapark.com/liste_mod.php?game=2

You cannot change blocks or gameplay, only textures.

[kurtdezhyrenze]

Seriously, why arent we allowed to have new textures! Its getting kinda boring and frustrating to play on the same dull textures! I mean seriously, you guys really need to release some more weapons like 2-4 more and also allow to have costum textures or you something! Its not like allowing players to create a map from scratch is a bad thing! The guys that are good at map making will be able to make the maps really good but you guys are limiting the to much! Release full mod tools and stop limiting the game! Let the community make the game better! Dont make a bad game like Call of duty! Just look at how they failed on the competitive side. Its just not working that way..

I bought this game along time ago hoping that WE would be able to change the game how ever we wanted but you guys better hurry or this game probably gonna fail and we will have to wait for Reborn. Just saying.

You can make textures mods already but only the author of a map or th server can use a mod, you can't use it only on your computer.

yeah!your right you can have choices but everything will just depends on the server!


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[apmnem]

just what the origional post said about guns. Its shootmania, not cod and they are both FPS games, but under i would asay a different category. and providing more than the current weapons i think would ruin how the game functions. so for now IMO the sniper/rail Assault/Rocket Shotgun/Nycleus ( if you wna call them that) are just fine

[MuNgLo]

@SpacemanSpiff

TM has been a competitive game for 5-6 years,sure the fact that new maps for all tourneys could make it abit less fair,but it has worked fine,with normally releasing new maps 1 week before a tournament round.

That's TM. For a competitive teamplay FPS it has nothing comparable. Usually in competitive FPS games there are trends in how people play on maps and so on. Tactics get evolved and people learn to take advantage of the maplayout. But those things take time. In TM you basically have no opponent but time against you and all you need to figure out is to get to goal as fast as possible.
There really is nothing to compare.


OT:Disregarding the pure textures and looks I'd say that a big problem for mapping is the way you use cinderblocks where you should use lego. I mean that the blocks used to make up a map is so big and gives so little room to finetuning of a map that pretty soon you will have worked out what makes a balanced map and so on and that will be the formula with very little deviation.
But on the other hand the big tourney's will choose maps and that way declare what will be played for most and usually the people that make the choices have a lacking understanding of the game.
We will have to see how the maps gets picked in the future.