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Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 21:23
by gimpymoo
Am I missing something?
Surely they should be merged into a single launcher so I can create my own playlist using Canyon and Stadium tracks?
Having to "restart" is stupid.
I have not tried, but does this also mean you cannot join servers with multiple environments?
This will become more of a problem when more ebvironments are available.
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 21:33
by Omnixor
it's steam problem...
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 21:57
by gimpymoo
Omnixor wrote:it's steam problem...
How is it a Steam problem? I think you just made that up.
Been using Steam without problem for MANY years.
They only distribute the code given to them by Nadeo/Ubisoft.
The code is obviously not working.
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 22:00
by Omnixor
I meant, it's the problem of the steam version of maniaplanet.
as far as I know, restarting is the only way to let steam "know" that you play another game now.
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 23:21
by maniaracer
try running the game EXE direct from the installation folder
Steam fubar's it up so bypass../
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\*your name*..
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common..
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 23:29
by maniaracer
Will ping Gabe and mention Ubisoft
i'lol'd
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 23:48
by Chris92
gimpymoo wrote:Am I missing something?
Surely they should be merged into a single launcher so I can create my own playlist using Canyon and Stadium tracks?
Having to "restart" is stupid.
I have not tried, but does this also mean you cannot join servers with multiple environments?
This will become more of a problem when more ebvironments are available.
Omnixor wrote:it's steam problem...
you can't think of TM² Canyon and TM² Stadium as two environments of one game anymore. Those two are separate games now in the ManiaPlanet universe. And yes, that means you can't have more than one environment on the same server anymore.
This in particular is not a problem of Steam.
Having to restart the game to switch the title on the other way is a problem of Steam in the ways the game is distributed at the moment. If you activate let's say TM² Canyon key only, Steam downloads ManiaPlanet and the Packs that are needed to play TM² Canyon in on folder (MP_TMCanyon)
Every title (TMCanyon, TMStadium, SMStorm) get's downloaded in a separate folder, therefore switching games is required, because Steam has to start another executable.
It's a bit stupid but probably the only way to do it right now, since every game always gets their own app-folder in Steam
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 23:54
by maniaracer
The less dev's involved in Starting your EXE the better?
Gabe sucks at fs.(?)/
<3 Ubisoft for the move. +++ for the product

Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 00:42
by gimpymoo
onkelz_chris wrote:
you can't think of TM² Canyon and TM² Stadium as two environments of one game anymore. Those two are separate games now in the ManiaPlanet universe. And yes, that means you can't have more than one environment on the same server anymore.
This in particular is not a problem of Steam.
Having to restart the game to switch the title on the other way is a problem of Steam in the ways the game is distributed at the moment. If you activate let's say TM² Canyon key only, Steam downloads ManiaPlanet and the Packs that are needed to play TM² Canyon in on folder (MP_TMCanyon)
Every title (TMCanyon, TMStadium, SMStorm) get's downloaded in a separate folder, therefore switching games is required, because Steam has to start another executable.
It's a bit stupid but probably the only way to do it right now, since every game always gets their own app-folder in Steam
Good reply, thanks.
So mixed servers are not an option at this time, that I never knew and a shame to although surely not permanent?
The data folder location problem can be changed though and is not a "problem" which cannot be resolved. The Nadeo direct download version works OK, so I assume the installer catalogs the install location and reports back to a file which the launcher then reads back when running.
I am not a developer but surely that process needs to change to catalog the Steam install folders which can be done as I know other games which have utilised the same process.
Or, surely they can develop a launcher which takes care of this by unifying the install locations. it all just seems very untidy, even with the Nadeo download if a seperate .exe is required to launch each environment, the engine is the same right so what is the need?
Re: Steam - Restarting when switching environments?
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 00:48
by maniaracer
ouch

- such criticism cannot be good
<3 <3