Questions about Trackmania and modding.

[lookid]

Hey all, I'm a new trackmaniac in TM 2 Good game and I really like it.
But since the time of TMUF much has changed. And I ask you for help, because many things have now changed and I hope you help me.

1) Bug with start. If I training in normal mode, I just press gas key (I play on keyboard) and everything's all right. But if I play in official mode I have to press gas key again. I hate this bug, because... 3, 2, 1, START! and you stand at the start and not moving. As result you have to except 5 minutes to new official race. What do I do?

2) Bug with Stadium. I guess that many people reported about this problem, but trackmania 2 have this bug again. This is edge of road. You jump on this edge and you take off from track (rammstein).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7UZ5rL9Yb8 for example
Can Nadeo fix this bug?

3) How to open (unpack) files in format *.Skin.pack.gbx? Programs, packagers?

4) I have a great models from TMUF. E.g. http://trackmania-carpark.com/car.php?id=2203. I want to move this model to Trackmania 2. What do I need to make it work with TM 2?
If you have any tutorial, please give links to them in comments

5) On manialinks people sell their models/skins for TM 2. It costs 100 planets, for example. In fact I pay for access to car but the car I download for free. And I saw in Maniapark what cars not for free and license for them costs a planets. I.e. I download car for free, but to start using this car I have to pay planets for license. It turns out that car on manialinks is free, because I pay for access, and car on maniapark is free, but I pay for including content, I pay for license (license key) on this car, and this license is saved, even if I delete the car. Question: how to upload my car to maniapark with free download access, but access to car in the game was paid?

6) And last. Where to get music from canyon platform? I really like this tracks, beautiful music.

First and second problem make worse the impression of the game. I hope Nadeo fix this problems and play even more pleasant.

If you have answers on any my question, please, write them to comments

Thank you.

[TMarc]

Hello and welcome

1) you just have to remember this behavior... and do not press gas all the time.
The best is: drive until the official time countdown is 0 and wait a bit longer, e.g. 5s more, and then restart the map. Then, when you are asked if you want to play official, select official but do not already press gas. Only press the gas button when there is the start countdown 3...2...1...go!
Btw. what are you using to play? A keyboard or a gamepad?

2) this is less a bug but rather a feature of the tracks, and Nadeo chose to keep this. If you drive on the grids on the sides, you slow down anyways, and if you get too near to the borders, the rammstein effect happens.
Try do drive more carefully Anyways I'm sure you're driving much better than me

3) Unpakcing Pack.Gbx is not possible. The creators create packs so their work cannot be ripped of easily

4) You would need to reimport it in ManiaPlanet, but for this you would also need the source model (e.g. as .fbx). Or you kindly ask a 3D modeler to do such a skin for ManiaPlanet.

5) Here I am not sure if I understood this completely.
People who create models sell them for some planets. People who create skins sell them for some planets.
If a skin contains a model you already have paid for, you should not need to pay extra for the model again.
But probably the source of the original model is different (a different locator might already be enough to make a difference!), or this is really a bug (I don't know).

6) You can try to look in the ZIP files in C:\ProgramData\ManiaPlanet\TMCanyon*.zip and see if there is some music.
See some informations about the creation here

[tombuilder]

4) http://www.maniapark.com/ressource.php?id=1667
It`s not completely the same, but almost, other skins for this model are on the bottom of the side.

[lookid]

TMarc, thank you a lot!
But we have a few moments, and I will write about that below.

1) I using a keyboard (and I wrote this in first sentence ), but ok, it's not problem for me. I just press on gas on countdown

2) Hmmm... Okay. Just look at that. I pass several times one race, I drive on grid and each 3, 4, 5 (or more) times all right. But there is one moment where I do all the same (and drive on this grid, of course) and... BOOM! I take off from track. Excuse me, but I don't think that's normal. Correct me if I wrong.

3) Ok... I understand. And what are they packed their content into this format? Which program?

4) E.g. I have a model in format .3ds or .max (this is template from TMUF). Now I want to import this car into trackmania 2. How to do that?

5) I will tell you Look, http://s020.radikal.ru/i717/1401/9f/6e1dc8ee42b2.png . Do you see that? I translate the description. "Access to <Manialink> will be cost 40 planets. Continue? ". You see? I pay 40 planets for download this model (but the model is free). That is if I find this car in maniapark, I just dowload it and enjoy it. I pay for access on this manialink, right?
Now look at that. This is model on maniapark: http://www.maniapark.com/ressource.php?id=1876 . Do you see the price? 5 planets. Ok, but I download this car for free, right? I downloaded it and import to the game. Model name is "Tommi_valleycar". Look at screenshot: http://i024.radikal.ru/1401/5b/14e4a8124705.png . Do you see the new car? "Tommi_valleycar", and I downloaded this car from maniapark. And clicking on this car give us this: http://i031.radikal.ru/1401/ac/42f896827255.png (my translate from russian is very well ). That is I downloaded this car for free, but before I use it, I have to pay for this car.
What we have as result. If I download car from ManiaLink, I pay for access. If I download car from ManiaPark, I pay for including content. This is what I understand. Do I understand correctly? And if yes, I want to know - how to set price on my car (e.g. 10 planets) and upload it to maniapark? How?
Sorry for my long message

6) Okay, I will check that
I found soundtrack canyon race. I've steam-version, the way is: "..\SteamApps\common\ManiaPlanet_TMCanyon\Packs\TMCanyon_skins.zip\Media\Musics\Canyon\Race" and this is all tracks from canyon. But I don't found soundtrack from canyon platform Where to get them?
UPD: It seems that I found it. In "ManiaPlanet_TMCanyon\Packs" folder I found "Platform.Title.Pack.Gbx". I guess that all files including soundtrack, tracks and other contents in this pack. HOW TO OPEN IT?

And again, thank you a lot for help, I hope we can sort out this issues

[lookid]

It's not completely the same, but almost, other skins for this model are on the bottom of the side.

I'm sorry, you don't understand me
I don't want to find a model that is similar to the one that I showed. No I want to learn how to import old models from TMUF to trackmania 2.
Well, look at this: http://trackmania-carpark.com/car.php?id=1251 . This model was not imported for trackmania 2, and I want to do this. How?

[meuh21]

Only one solution : ask to the creator to modify his model for TM².

[TMarc]

1) I using a keyboard (and I wrote this in first sentence ), but ok, it's not problem for me. I just press on gas on countdown

ah yes, I should read between braces also when it is not code

Excuse me, but I don't think that's normal. Correct me if I wrong.

Well, it is unfortunately "normal" for Stadium, and many are used to it, many hate it

3) Ok... I understand. And what are they packed their content into this format? Which program?

The file header says "NadeoPak". It is like some encrypted ZIP, or just an own packer implementation of Nadeo.

5) What we have as result. If I download car from ManiaLink, I pay for access. If I download car from ManiaPark, I pay for including content. This is what I understand. Do I understand correctly?

Yes, Спасибо за фотографии!
Downloads outside of ManiaPlanet are free, but the contents can cost if used inside the game.
Also some downloads inside Maniaplanets can cost.

And if yes, I want to know - how to set price on my car (e.g. 10 planets) and upload it to maniapark? How?

You have different possibilities: You create an own website with "ManiaLinks", or you create a Pack with planet costs inside (this is what happens with costly skins: they have a model inside a pack inside the skin zip, like матрёшка )

6) But I don't found soundtrack from canyon platform Where to get them?
UPD: It seems that I found it. In "ManiaPlanet_TMCanyon\Packs" folder I found "Platform.Title.Pack.Gbx". I guess that all files including soundtrack, tracks and other contents in this pack. HOW TO OPEN IT?

Like 3) you cannot open it directly and you cannot extract the files. The only thing you could do: play plattform track, mute the engine sounds, and hear only the music

[Alter-Fox]

Like 3) you cannot open it directly and you cannot extract the files. The only thing you could do: play plattform track, mute the engine sounds, and hear only the music

I did that once...
I wonder if we could convince Nadeo to release the platform songs, though. I'd certainly be interested.

Come to think of it I still don't know who wrote them.

[lookid]

Well, it is unfortunately "normal" for Stadium, and many are used to it, many hate it

I hate it, cuz' I really think that it's a bug! And it need to fix!

The file header says "NadeoPak". It is like some encrypted ZIP, or just an own packer implementation of Nadeo.

Ok. That I understand if I've files in *.zip or *.dds or other format, I can pack my files into *.Pack.Gbx with instruments in maniaplanet (in game, of course), but I can't unpack any files *.Pack.Gbx back, right?

Yes, Спасибо за фотографии!
Downloads outside of ManiaPlanet are free, but the contents can cost if used inside the game.
Also some downloads inside Maniaplanets can cost. You have different possibilities: You create an own website with "ManiaLinks", or you create a Pack with planet costs inside (this is what happens with costly skins: they have a model inside a pack inside the skin zip, like матрёшка )

Oh, your russian very well But you right. I mean you translate into russian is right
By topic. Yes, this is absolutely what I wanted to hear. That is if I download car in manialink, I pay for it. But if I download car from maniapark, I pay for including content. Thank you a lot! I understood everything.

Like 3) you cannot open it directly and you cannot extract the files. The only thing you could do: play plattform track, mute the engine sounds, and hear only the music

Hmf. I have a better idea. I take fraps, turn off all effects and record the music I guess that Nadeo don't kill me for copyright

It was nice to talk, TMarc, thank you

[Omnixor]

Ok. That I understand if I've files in *.zip or *.dds or other format, I can pack my files into *.Pack.Gbx with instruments in maniaplanet (in game, of course), but I can't unpack any files *.Pack.Gbx back, right?

right.