[TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through Steam

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oblysk1
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[TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through Steam

Post by oblysk1 »

As some context, I'm running Windows 7 64-bit.

So my problem is that TM2 Stadium crashes on launch but only when I launch the game through Steam. However, ManiaPlanet, as installed through the installer found on my player page, plays Stadium just fine. Also, when I download Canyon through Steam and run it, it doesn't crash like Stadium does.

I've played Stadium a decent amount before this crash started happening. It only started happening in the last 2-3 months.

I've tried to verify the integrity of the files through Steam many times, but it finds nothing wrong.

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but when I navigate to the Steam install of the game (i.e. Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ManiaPlanet_TMStadium) and run ManiaPlanet.exe, ShootMania Storm Demo is loaded instead. I was trying to load Stadium through this manner in order to see if the way Steam launches the game affected it.

All I want to do is to get the game to run through Steam, like it used to.

Here's my most recent log of one of the crashes.
Although I can run the game at maximum settings, I set the quality to "Very Fast" since that was recommended in some other posts.

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[Win32] CmdLine="D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ManiaPlanet_TMStadium\ManiaPlanet.exe" /config=Default /silent
[Sys] Minimum app. @ = 0x00010000
[Sys] Maximum app. @ = 0xFFFEFFFF
[Sys] "AMD Radeon R9 200 Series"(0x1002,0x67B1) with 8.17.10.1280 (aticfx32.dll)
[Sys] Steam Running = 1, 0
[Sys] Steam user = 76561197999103838, AppId = 232 910
[Sys] ShaderQuality    : Very Fast
[Sys] TexturesQuality  : High
[Sys] TextureDecals_3D : 0
[Sys] TextureDecals_2D : 0
[Sys] D3D9Ex           : 1
[Sys] D3D9 BC4/5       : 1
[Dx9] D3DX SDK 9.2, DirectX SDK 9.0, Runtime 9.0Ex, using HAL device on
[Dx9] "AMD Radeon R9 200 Series"(0x1002,0x67B1) with 8.17.10.1280(aticfx32.dll) DDI9 driver.
[Dx9] Gpu Memory MBytes = 3.08e+003
[Dx9] Agp Memory MBytes = 1.02e+003
[Dx9] Device created in Windowed.
--- ExceptionWin32 catched ---
GbxGame
date=2014-07-03_22_40 Svn=57349 GameVersion=3.3.0
[Sys] Windows version = Seven
[Sys] Time since init: 0h 0mn 4s 186ms
[Sys] Os = Windows 7 Home Premium(7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144) 64b
[Sys] Cpu = AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor             @ 3 612MHz (bench)   (Nb=4)
[Sys] SSE2 = 1
[Sys] Physical memory = 8 139 Mb
[Sys] Windows GDI resolution = 1 920x1 080x32b
[Sys] ExeChecksum = 0x45F2C261
[Sys] Time since init: 0h 0mn 4s 186ms
[Sys] ---- GlobalMemoryStatus(Startup) ----
[Sys] MemoryLoad = 37%
[Sys]                Total Mb  /    Free Mb
[Sys]   Physical =   8 139 Mb  /   5 077 Mb
[Sys]   PageFile =  16 276 Mb  /  12 783 Mb
[Sys]   Virtual@ =   4 096 Mb  /   3 955 Mb
[Sys] ----------------------------
[Sys] ---- GlobalMemoryStatus(Now) ----
[Sys] MemoryLoad = 38%
[Sys]                Total Mb  /    Free Mb
[Sys]   Physical =   8 139 Mb  /   5 043 Mb
[Sys]   PageFile =  16 276 Mb  /  12 576 Mb
[Sys]   Virtual@ =   4 096 Mb  /   3 747 Mb
[Sys] ----------------------------
[Sys] Largest committed free block size = 2 316 Kb
[Dx9] D3DX SDK 9.2, DirectX SDK 9.0, Runtime 9.0Ex, using HAL device on
[Dx9] "AMD Radeon R9 200 Series"(0x1002,0x67B1) with 8.17.10.1280(aticfx32.dll) DDI9 driver.
[Dx9] Gpu Memory MBytes = 3.08e+003
[Dx9] Agp Memory MBytes = 1.02e+003
[Dx9] Device created in Windowed.
Win32 Exception : Access violation
	=>Occured at address 0x0018FA78
	The thread tried to write to the invalid address (data) 0x0018FA78
	eax=0x5DBF52F0   ebx=0x00000000   ecx=0x5DBF525D   edx=0x0018F7E4
	edi=0x00000000   esi=0x0551EC88   ebp=0x0018F7CC   esp=0x0018F7C0   eip=0x0018FA78
	Called from address 0x0018FA74
	Called from address 0x06841038
	Called from address 0x0552F998
	Called from address 0x0100D722
End of stack...
[Sys] Time is 0h 41mn 26s 665ms

[Sys] Time since init: 0h 0mn 4s 188ms

Ebp was corrupted (0x0018F7BC)and fixed to :0x0018F7CC
Stack was copied from 0x0x0018F740, 16 384 bytes

ByteCode:
0100D6E2: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 3B D3 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2
0100D6F2: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 9C D2 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2
0100D702: 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2 - 00 01 3B D3 00 01 3B D3
0100D712: 00 01 9C D2 00 01 3B D3 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 3B D3
0100D722: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 3B D3 - 00 01 3B D3 00 01 3B D3
0100D732: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 9C D2 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2
0100D742: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 9C D2 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2
0100D752: 00 01 3B D3 00 01 9C D2 - 00 01 9C D2 00 01 9C D2

Stack:
0018F7C0: 1006677C 
0018F7C4: 0CF99000 
0018F7C8: 00000014 
0018F7CC: 0018F7E4 Ebp copy
0018F7D0: 0018FA74 Occured at address 0x0018FA78
0018F7D4: 00000000 (1st Parameter)
0018F7D8: 00000000 (2nd Parameter)
0018F7DC: 0551EC88 
0018F7E0: 06855620 
0018F7E4: 0018F7F4 Ebp copy
0018F7E8: 06841038 Called from address 0x0018FA74
0018F7EC: 00000008 (1st Parameter)
0018F7F0: 0552F940 (2nd Parameter)
0018F7F4: 05690000 Ebp copy (seems to be wrong : FramePointer has been omitted ?)
0018F7F8: 0552F998 Called from address 0x06841038
0018F7FC: 0BA41F34 (1st Parameter)
   CFastString("")
0018F800: 0018F810 (2nd Parameter)
0018F804: 068410C0 
0018F808: 00000000 
0018F80C: 00000003 
0018F810: 0018F8FC 
0018F814: 00000008 
0018F818: 05690000 
0018F81C: 0552F940 
0018F820: 0018F8FC 
0018F824: 77353CA4 
0018F828: 77353CD3 
0018F82C: 74C020E7 
0018F830: 00000002 
0018F834: 056901C4 
   CFastString("")
0018F838: 05690000 
0018F83C: 05690150 
0018F840: 10244F90 
0018F844: 6DB6795F 
0018F848: 05690150 
0018F84C: 0000004E 
0018F850: 05690174 
0018F854: 0683D280 
0018F858: 00000003 
0018F85C: 0DFAE700 
0018F860: 05690150 
0018F864: 0000000B 
0018F868: 055318A0 
0018F86C: 0BA41F34 
0018F870: 0000000B 
0018F874: 00000000 
0018F878: 00000008 
0018F87C: 0018F89C 
0018F880: 00000000 
0018F884: 05696AB8 
0018F888: 05500048 
0018F88C: 00000000 
0018F890: 02000002 
0018F894: 0569A1C0 
0018F898: 0C00000C 
   CFastString("")
0018F89C: 0018F830 
0018F8A0: 6CEF1804 
0018F8A4: 00000000 
0018F8A8: 00000080 
0018F8AC: 03EC0A63 
   CFastString("")
0018F8B0: E90000E9 
0018F8B4: 05530308 
0018F8B8: 00000001 
0018F8BC: 10059FE2 
0018F8C0: 00000002 
0018F8C4: 00000008 
0018F8C8: 0552F948 
   CFastString("")
0018F8CC: 0552F948 
0018F8D0: 0552F943 
0018F8D4: 00000000 
0018F8D8: 0005A36E 
0018F8DC: 05690000 
0018F8E0: 018410C0 
0018F8E4: 0018F82C 
0018F8E8: 0DFAE724 
0018F8EC: 0018F9B0 
0018F8F0: 773971F5 
0018F8F4: 03EC108B 
   CFastString("")
0018F8F8: FFFFFFFE 
0018F8FC: 77353CD3 
0018F900: 77353CFE 
0018F904: 00000038 
0018F908: 00000040 
0018F90C: 0552F942 
0018F910: 0552F940 
0018F914: 00000002 
0018F918: 00000038 
0018F91C: 0569C8C4 
   CFastString("")
0018F920: 00000028 
0018F924: 0569E3A0 
0018F928: 0018F968 
0018F92C: 00000000 
0018F930: 00000001 
0018F934: 00000000 
0018F938: 05690000 
0018F93C: 0569A718 
0018F940: 0569A718 
0018F944: 00000001 
0018F948: 00930015 
0018F94C: 0000004E 
0018F950: 00000000 
0018F954: 00000000 
0018F958: 7733F8D1 
0018F95C: 0569A2A0 
0018F960: 00000001 
0018F964: 0569A710 
0018F968: 0018F980 
0018F96C: 7734E023 
0018F970: 0569A718 
0018F974: 00000002 
0018F978: 0569C8C4 
0018F97C: 0569A710 
0018F980: 0018F994 
0018F984: 76E214AD 
0018F988: 05690000 
0018F98C: 00000000 
0018F990: 0569A718 
0018F994: 0018F9DC 
0018F998: 7C34218A 
0018F99C: 05690000 
0018F9A0: 00000000 
0018F9A4: 7C34218F 
0018F9A8: 00000002 
0018F9AC: 00000002 
0018F9B0: 0569C8C4 
0018F9B4: 0018F9C4 
0018F9B8: 1008834C 
0018F9BC: 00000000 
0018F9C0: 00000002 
0018F9C4: 0018F9A8 
0018F9C8: 10088C00 
0018F9CC: 0018FB7C 
0018F9D0: 7C34240D 
0018F9D4: 7C37A3A8 
0018F9D8: FFFFFFFF 
0018F9DC: 7C34218F 
0018F9E0: 1008B4C4 
0018F9E4: 0569A718 
0018F9E8: 0569A718 
0018F9EC: 0569A734 
0018F9F0: 1008B57C 
0018F9F4: 0569C8C4 
0018F9F8: 00000001 
0018F9FC: 00000700 
0018FA00: 00000000 
0018FA04: 00000000 
0018FA08: 00000000 
0018FA0C: 00000000 
0018FA10: 00000000 
0018FA14: 00000000 
0018FA18: 00000000 
0018FA1C: 0018FA38 
0018FA20: 1008B78E 
0018FA24: 0569A734 
0018FA28: 00000001 
0018FA2C: 0552F948 
0018FA30: 00000001 
0018FA34: 0569C8C4 
0018FA38: 0018FA54 
0018FA3C: 1008B891 
0018FA40: 0018FA5C 
0018FA44: 0569A734 
0018FA48: 0569C8AC 
0018FA4C: 00000700 
0018FA50: 0569C848 
0018FA54: 0018FA68 
0018FA58: 1008B9B9 
0018FA5C: 0569C8AC 
0018FA60: 74FF7D2F 
0018FA64: 10244F90 
0018FA68: 0018FAA8 
0018FA6C: 1005C1B5 
0018FA70: 1005C1BD 
0018FA74: 00000020 
0018FA78: 0018FAAC 
0018FA7C: 1005182B 
0018FA80: 0018FA90 
   CFastString("")
0018FA84: 06855620 
0018FA88: 102452F4 
0018FA8C: 10244F90 
0018FA90: 00000000 
0018FA94: 00000000 
0018FA98: 00000000 
0018FA9C: 00000000 
0018FAA0: 00000384 
0018FAA4: 00000640 
0018FAA8: 0018FAD4 
0018FAAC: 0018FAD4 
0018FAB0: 1005B537 
0018FAB4: 10244FCC 
0018FAB8: 10244F90 
0018FABC: 100462EC 
0018FAC0: 00000000 
0018FAC4: 00001CBC 
0018FAC8: 6DCFAD94 
0018FACC: 00000000 
0018FAD0: 00000000 
0018FAD4: 0018FAE8 
0018FAD8: 100476BE 
0018FADC: 00000000 
0018FAE0: 0B278C70 
   CVisionViewportDx9(0x0B278C70) InRender infos:
0018FAE4: 0D075820 
0018FAE8: 0018FB24 
0018FAEC: 10047EE9 
0018FAF0: 06855620 
0018FAF4: 00000000 
0018FAF8: 00000000 
0018FAFC: 00000000 
0018FB00: 00000000 
0018FB04: 00000212 
0018FB08: 00000000 
0018FB0C: 0B278C70 
0018FB10: 6DBAA064 
0018FB14: 068583BC 
0018FB18: 0D075820 
0018FB1C: 10244F90 
0018FB20: 6DCFDA20 
0018FB24: 0018FB64 
0018FB28: 0078AA7E 
0018FB2C: 06855620 
0018FB30: 00000000 
0018FB34: 00000000 
0018FB38: 00000000 
0018FB3C: 00000000 
0018FB40: 007A750E 
0018FB44: 06855620 
0018FB48: 00000000 
0018FB4C: 00000000 
0018FB50: 00000000 
0018FB54: 00000000 
0018FB58: 00000000 
0018FB5C: 0B278C70 
0018FB60: 00000001 
0018FB64: 0018FC00 
0018FB68: 00720297 
0018FB6C: 9AC81292 
0018FB70: 0B278C70 
0018FB74: 0B278C70 
0018FB78: FFFFFFFF 
0018FB7C: 0018FBF4 
0018FB80: 01246EA8 
0018FB84: 00000000 
0018FB88: 007A79BD 
0018FB8C: 9AC81272 
0018FB90: 00000000 
0018FB94: 0B278C70 
0018FB98: 3F800000 
0018FB9C: 00000000 
0018FBA0: 0B278C70 
0018FBA4: 0018FC18 
0018FBA8: 0071FCBC 
0018FBAC: FFFFFFFF 
0018FBB0: 0D075820 
0018FBB4: 0071FEBC 
0018FBB8: 0D0EA670 
0018FBBC: 00000001 
0018FBC0: FFFFFFFF 
0018FBC4: 00000000 
0018FBC8: 9AC8122E 
0018FBCC: 00000000 
0018FBD0: 0B278C70 
0018FBD4: 0018FC18 
0018FBD8: 0D075820 
0018FBDC: 9AC81202 
0018FBE0: 00000000 
0018FBE4: 0B278C70 
0018FBE8: 0018FC18 
0018FBEC: 9AC8127A 
0018FBF0: FFFFFFFF 
0018FBF4: 0018FDDC 
0018FBF8: 0124F7C8 
0018FBFC: FFFFFFFF 
0018FC00: 0018FC18 
0018FC04: 0071D465 
0018FC08: 0B278C70 
0018FC0C: 00000000 
0018FC10: 01BA07C8 
   CMwNod(0x01BA07C8)
0018FC14: 00000001 
0018FC18: 0018FC44 
0018FC1C: 0045F7BB 
0018FC20: 0CF9E950 
   CHmsZoneOverlay(0x0CF9E950)
0018FC24: 06599D10 
   CScene2d(0x06599D10)
0018FC28: 01BA07C8 
0018FC2C: 0018FC44 
0018FC30: 00E3A425 
0018FC34: 00000000 
0018FC38: 00000000 
0018FC3C: 4166816C 
0018FC40: 004037B1 
0018FC44: 0018FDE8 
0018FC48: 004037B9 
0018FC4C: 9AC815B2 
0018FC50: 0644FA30 
      Linked to file="D:\Users\Alan\Documents\ManiaPlanet\Config\Default.SystemConfig.Gbx"
   CSystemConfig(0x0644FA30)
0018FC54: 01BA07C8 
0018FC58: 00400000 
0018FC5C: BF800000 
0018FC60: BF800000 
0018FC64: 01BA07C8 
0018FC68: 0D2C2690 
      Linked to file="<virtual>D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ManiaPlanet_TMStadium\GameData\Menu\Control\Frame\FrameStartUpSplash.Frame.Gbx"
   CControlFrame(0x0D2C2690)
0018FC6C: 3F800000 
0018FC70: 3F800000 
0018FC74: 06599D10 
0018FC78: 00000000 
0018FC7C: 00000000 
0018FC80: 3F800000 
0018FC84: 00000000 
0018FC88: 3F800000 
0018FC8C: 00000000 
0018FC90: 00000000 
0018FC94: 00000000 
0018FC98: 00000000 
0018FC9C: 00000000 
0018FCA0: 3F800000 
0018FCA4: 00000000 
0018FCA8: 0158DEE0 
0018FCAC: 00000000 
0018FCB0: 00000000 
0018FCB4: 00000000 
0018FCB8: 00000001 
0018FCBC: 00000000 
0018FCC0: 0B500006 
0018FCC4: 01BBE3A0 
   CSystemEngine(0x01BBE3A0)
0018FCC8: 00000000 
0018FCCC: 00000000 
0018FCD0: 00000004 
0018FCD4: 0D1D8FC8 
0018FCD8: 00000004 
0018FCDC: 0000000B 
0018FCE0: 0B453EC0 
0018FCE4: 0000000B 
0018FCE8: 00000000 
0018FCEC: 00000000 
0018FCF0: 00000000 
0018FCF4: 07016000 
0018FCF8: 0655A8D8 
   CSystemFidFile(0x0655A8D8) FullName="<virtual>D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ManiaPlanet_TMStadium\GameData\Menu\Control\Frame\FrameStartUpSplash.Frame.Gbx"
0018FCFC: 00460609 
0018FD00: 00000000 
0018FD04: 00000000 
0018FD08: 00000000 
0018FD0C: 00000000 
0018FD10: 00000000 
0018FD14: 00000000 
0018FD18: 00000000 
0018FD1C: 00000000 
0018FD20: 00000007 
0018FD24: 00000000 
0018FD28: 00000000 
0018FD2C: 00000000 
0018FD30: 00000000 
0018FD34: 00000001 
0018FD38: 00000000 
0018FD3C: 00000008 
0018FD40: 00000000 
0018FD44: 00000000 
0018FD48: 00000000 
0018FD4C: 0000076B 
0018FD50: 0000012C 
0018FD54: 00000000 
0018FD58: 00000000 
0018FD5C: 00000000 
0018FD60: 00000000 
0018FD64: 00000000 
0018FD68: 00000000 
0018FD6C: 00000000 
0018FD70: 015C581C 
0018FD74: 0000000A 
0018FD78: 0CF78C38 
   CFastString("")
0018FD7C: 0000000A 
0018FD80: 00000000 
0018FD84: 0D34C000 
0018FD88: 00000009 
0018FD8C: 00000000 
0018FD90: FFFFFFFF 
0018FD94: 00000000 
0018FD98: 00000001 
0018FD9C: 00000000 
0018FDA0: 00000000 
0018FDA4: 00000000 
0018FDA8: 00000000 
0018FDAC: 3FCCCCCD 
0018FDB0: 3F666666 
0018FDB4: 3F800000 
0018FDB8: 00000000 
0018FDBC: 00000000 
0018FDC0: 3F800000 
0018FDC4: 00000000 
0018FDC8: 00000000 
0018FDCC: 00000000 
0018FDD0: 00000000 
0018FDD4: 9AC815BE 
0018FDD8: 0644FA30 
0018FDDC: 0018FEB4 
0018FDE0: 012106E6 
0018FDE4: 00000000 
0018FDE8: 0018FEC4 
0018FDEC: 007D15A6 
0018FDF0: 7501F670 
0018FDF4: 75000C62 
0018FDF8: 007D2F05 
0018FDFC: 9AC817E2 
0018FE00: 00000000 
0018FE04: 0000000A 
0018FE08: 00000000 
0018FE0C: 00000640 
0018FE10: 00000384 
0018FE14: 00000650 
0018FE18: 000003AA 
0018FE1C: 00000640 
0018FE20: 00000384 
0018FE24: 00400000 
0018FE28: 01B988C0 
0018FE2C: 00002800 
0018FE30: 00002000 
0018FE34: 00000000 
0018FE38: 0158D17C 
   CFastString("")
0018FE3C: 00000000 
0018FE40: 0158D173 
0018FE44: 01BA5420 
0018FE48: 00000007 
0018FE4C: 00000001 
0018FE50: 01AC9F64 
0018FE54: 01B72278 
0018FE58: 01ACA370 
0018FE5C: 00000030 
0018FE60: 0000008B 
0018FE64: 007D1890 
0018FE68: 00000000 
0018FE6C: 00000000 
0018FE70: 00400000 
0018FE74: 026F04F9 
0018FE78: 12DB0517 
0018FE7C: 00000000 
0018FE80: 00000000 
0018FE84: 01B739D2 
0018FE88: 00000000 
0018FE8C: 00000000 
0018FE90: 00000000 
0018FE94: 00000640 
0018FE98: 00000384 
0018FE9C: 00000000 
0018FEA0: 00000000 
0018FEA4: 00000000 
0018FEA8: 00000000 
0018FEAC: 9AC817EE 
0018FEB0: 77361092 
0018FEB4: 0018FEF8 
0018FEB8: 01250F24 
0018FEBC: 00000001 
0018FEC0: 00000004 
0018FEC4: 0018FF08 
0018FEC8: 007D3191 
0018FECC: 00400000 
0018FED0: 0000000A 
0018FED4: 9AC816EA 
0018FED8: 00000000 
0018FEDC: 0000000A 
0018FEE0: 00000000 
0018FEE4: C0000005 
0018FEE8: C0000005 
0018FEEC: 0018F208 
   CFastString("")
0018FEF0: 0018FED4 
0018FEF4: 0018F208 
0018FEF8: 0018FF30 
0018FEFC: 01110110 
0018FF00: 9BBD71F2 
0018FF04: 00000000 
0018FF08: 0018FF3C 
0018FF0C: 007D32FE 
0018FF10: 00000020 
0018FF14: 0000000A 
0018FF18: 9AC816DE 
0018FF1C: 00000000 
0018FF20: 0000000A 
0018FF24: 00000000 
0018FF28: 0110BCDE 
0018FF2C: 0018FF18 
0018FF30: 0018FF78 
0018FF34: 01250FE0 
0018FF38: 00000000 
0018FF3C: 0018FF88 
0018FF40: 0110262A 
0018FF44: 00400000 
0018FF48: 00000000 
0018FF4C: 01AC5616 
0018FF50: 0000000A 
0018FF54: 9AC8166A 
0018FF58: 00000000 
0018FF5C: 00000000 
0018FF60: FFFDE000 
   CFastString("")
0018FF64: 0018FF70 
0018FF68: 00000000 
0018FF6C: 00000000 
0018FF70: 0018FF54 
0018FF74: 00000031 
0018FF78: 0018FFC4 
0018FF7C: 01110110 
0018FF80: 9BB97722 
0018FF84: 00000000 
0018FF88: 0018FF94 
0018FF8C: 76E2338A 
0018FF90: FFFDE000 
0018FF94: 0018FFD4 
0018FF98: 77359F72 
0018FF9C: FFFDE000 
0018FFA0: 74C027CF 
0018FFA4: 00000000 
0018FFA8: 00000000 
0018FFAC: FFFDE000 
0018FFB0: 00000000 
0018FFB4: 00000000 
0018FFB8: FFFDE000 
0018FFBC: 0018FFA0 
0018FFC0: 001E0011 
0018FFC4: FFFFFFFF 
0018FFC8: 773971F5 
0018FFCC: 03EC1D4B 
   CFastString("")
0018FFD0: 00000000 
0018FFD4: 0018FFEC 
   CFastString("")
0018FFD8: 77359F45 
0018FFDC: 01102523 
0018FFE0: FFFDE000 
0018FFE4: 00000000 
0018FFE8: 00000000 
0018FFEC: 00000000 
0018FFF0: 00000000 
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0018FFF8: FFFDE000 
0018FFFC: 00000000 
00190000: 78746341 
00190004: 00000020 
00190008: 00000001 
0019000C: 0000330C 
00190010: 000000DC 
00190014: 00000000 
00190018: 00000020 
0019001C: 00000000 
00190020: 00000014 
00190024: 00000001 
00190028: 00000007 
0019002C: 00000034 
00190030: 0000017C 
00190034: 00000001 
00190038: 00000000 
0019003C: 00000000 
00190040: 00000000 
00190044: 00000000 
00190048: 00000000 
0019004C: 00000002 
00190050: 1A26EF4E 
00190054: 00000298 
00190058: 00000044 
0019005C: 000002E0 
00190060: 00000260 
00190064: 00000000 
00190068: F33271BA 
0019006C: 00000540 
00190070: 0000004A 
00190074: 0000058C 
00190078: 0000031E 
0019007C: 00000000 
00190080: 2D59495B 
00190084: 000008AC 
00190088: 00000032 
0019008C: 000008E0 
00190090: 00000300 
00190094: 00000000 
00190098: 32CEEACD 
0019009C: 00000BE0 
001900A0: 00000042 
001900A4: 00000C24 
001900A8: 00000336 
001900AC: 00000000 
001900B0: 38505FC8 
001900B4: 00000F5C 
001900B8: 0000005E 
001900BC: 00000FBC 
001900C0: 00000368 
001900C4: 00000000 
001900C8: B1280544 
001900CC: 00001324 
001900D0: 00000056 
001900D4: 0000137C 
001900D8: 00000398 
001900DC: 00000010 
001900E0: 00000009 
001900E4: 000000EC 
001900E8: 00000002 
001900EC: 00000001 
001900F0: 0000017C 
001900F4: 000015D0 
001900F8: 00000001 
001900FC: 00000002 
00190100: 0000174C 
00190104: 000007A0 
00190108: 00000001 
0019010C: 00000003 
00190110: 00001EEC 
00190114: 00000E8C 
00190118: 00000001 
0019011C: 00000004 
00190120: 00002D78 
00190124: 00000314 
00190128: 00000002 
0019012C: 00000005 
00190130: 0000308C 
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76B20000-76B47000: CFGMGR32.dll
75ED0000-76B1A000: SHELL32.dll
75EA0000-75ECB000: imagehlp.dll
75E50000-75E97000: KERNELBASE.dll
75E40000-75E43000: normaliz.DLL
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75D40000-75E0C000: MSCTF.dll
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75B40000-75BE0000: ADVAPI32.dll
75AC0000-75B3B000: COMDLG32.dll
75A20000-75A2B000: profapi.dll
75800000-75A19000: iertutil.dll
75750000-757FC000: msvcrt.dll
75720000-7574E000: WINTRUST.dll
756C0000-75720000: IMM32.DLL
75630000-756B3000: CLBCatQ.DLL
75610000-75627000: USERENV.dll
75600000-7560C000: MSASN1.dll
755E0000-755F2000: DEVOBJ.dll
755D0000-755DA000: LPK.dll
754B0000-755D0000: CRYPT32.dll
75460000-754A5000: WLDAP32.dll
753D0000-75460000: GDI32.dll
750E0000-7529D000: WININET.dll
74FE0000-750E0000: USER32.dll
74F40000-74FDD000: USP10.dll
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74DE0000-74E37000: shlwapi.DLL
74D20000-74D80000: SspiCli.dll
74D10000-74D1C000: CRYPTBASE.dll
74C20000-74C29000: HID.DLL
74BE0000-74C01000: MSVFW32.dll
74BC0000-74BD9000: AVIFIL32.dll
74B90000-74BC0000: DINPUT8.dll
747E0000-748F3000: aticfx32.dll
746B0000-746CB000: atiu9pag.dll
74290000-742C9000: MMDevApi.dll
73DC0000-73DF6000: AUDIOSES.DLL
73440000-73447000: WSOCK32.dll
73430000-73439000: version.DLL
731A0000-731BC000: IPHLPAPI.DLL
73190000-73197000: WINNSI.DLL
73010000-7305C000: apphelp.dll
721A0000-72224000: COMCTL32.dll
720C0000-720C8000: Secur32.dll
71F90000-71FA2000: dhcpcsvc.DLL
719A0000-719DC000: mswsock.dll
71990000-71995000: wshtcpip.dll
71330000-71343000: dwmapi.dll
710F0000-71122000: WINMM.dll
70CD0000-70CD5000: MSIMG32.dll
70C50000-70CD0000: uxtheme.dll
70790000-70796000: d3d8thk.dll
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70110000-70161000: WINSPOOL.DRV
6E860000-6E975000: DbgHelp.dll
6E7F0000-6E815000: POWRPROF.dll
6E7D0000-6E7E4000: MSACM32.dll
6E370000-6E382000: MPR.dll
6DDC0000-6DDDE000: steam_api.dll
6DB60000-6DD23000: d3d9.dll
6D590000-6D797000: D3DCOMPILER_43.dll
6CEE0000-6D559000: atiumdag.dll
6BA90000-6C114000: atiumdva.dll
6A940000-6AA35000: PROPSYS.dll
6A490000-6A68F000: d3dx9_43.dll
60E40000-60E8B000: binkw32.dll
60DF0000-60E3F000: oggvorbisfile.dll
60D50000-60DE2000: OpenAL32.dll
601E0000-6026D000: AcLayers.DLL
60000000-60021000: CSERHelper.dll
5EC70000-5ECE2000: dsound.dll
5E510000-5E57E000: libwebp.dll
5DB80000-5DC40000: gameoverlayrenderer.dll
5D490000-5D563000: steam.dll
5D1C0000-5D481000: Steam2.dll
5BA70000-5BB22000: tier0_s.dll
5B770000-5B7BE000: vstdlib_s.dll
38000000-38893000: steamclient.dll
10000000-1027D000: xfire_toucan_46139.dll
00400000-019B7000: ManiaPlanet.exe
My specs are
Processor: AMD FX-4100 3.6Ghz Quad-Core
RAM: 8Gb Ram
Graphics Card: Gigabyte R9 290

I have the newest Catalyst drivers as well.

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by TMarc »

That's bad, no apparent cause for the crash.

Did you try to deinstall Stadium completely (after doing a backup of your maps if you have any), and reinstall it?

Be sure not to mix any file locations between Steam setup and standalone setup,
because the standalone setup might have altered some settings and files that are orginially meant for the Steam version.
You can modify the location of certain files in the standalone ManiaPlanet Launcher, help menu.
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by oblysk1 »

I have tried to uninstall Stadium completely, at least through Steam. When I remove it on Steam, though, it doesn't ask if I want to keep my Documents/ManiaPlanet folder; it simply leaves that folder in tact and only removes the content in the Steam/steamapps/common/ManiaPlanet_TMCanyon folder. I can't say that I've ever removed the game on Steam and deleted my Documents/ManiaPlanet folder manually, however.

I'm sorry if any of that is confusing.

I'm also fairly certain that there is no confusion between the file locations - I only installed the standalone after I was getting the crash, in order to see if it would work when the Steam version wouldn't. So the Steam version was crashing before I had ever installed the standalone version of the game.
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by TMarc »

It's not at all confusing, it's what I wanted to know ;)

One line in the log says:
0018FC50: 0644FA30
Linked to file="D:\Users\Alan\Documents\ManiaPlanet\Config\Default.SystemConfig.Gbx"
CSystemConfig(0x0644FA30)

Perhaps just delete this file.

Another question: is the steam client itself up to date? In case you clicked "no" on recent updates...

And... do you remember if you had installed any application, like mumble, skype, hamachi and others, around the time you started to get those crashes? Perhaps check in Windows control panel, applications, and filter for column installation date, see what matches...

Some applications which use network might block a function of ManiaPlanet.
Of course it should not lead to a crash, rather some missing function, but I don't know what it could be with Steam, sorry :oops:
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by oblysk1 »

I tried deleting the file. It told me it was checking my network connection - I clicked OK but it crashed during launch nonetheless.

My Steam client is up to date. That's something I hadn't thought of, but I checked for Steam updates and found none.

It's hard to pinpoint what date it started happening to me. During school I didn't have time to play it, but even when I finished my semester I still didn't play for a month or so. I did find a Skype update and Hamachi update around when they started, so I'll mess with those to see if they'll affect anything. I doubt it though :cry:.

Thanks for all the help. In case this helps at all, I got a log from a few hours ago with an odd entry. This was found about 3/5 of the way down the log. The ellipses were added by me just to indicate that I cut out most of the log. I also had to cut out like 99% of the entry because it was going over the character limit of the forum.

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CFastString("")
001903FC: 00630034 
00190400: 00660063 
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   CFastStringInt("ᱜ铊涁ﴽ㐀叒྽긱溢☶隔ﰆ��ꡧ媏不♐襤暓擲죑㽊盀Ⓘϥ㔁泩进䷊皓뀋퍮㍌≖皇˰즋��扞嚦誂䨛횅뛆꠮姹밢녪綘﷫唼䏐煻辑ꓕ��鷘ნ说龰⹶㰊ਗ魌靉餸倀∜盏ᛆ풟耖楌〆贰⟵梴⩹䫫鋕럯ͮạ澉䒊湷剮፬褘么벃
...
00190408: 00220066 
...
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by oblysk1 »

Also, this is something new. After I completely remove all ManiaPlanet files by 1. Deleting Local Content on Steam and 2. Uninstalling the Standalone and saying "yes" for it when it prompts to remove the other files, I then restart my computer. Then, I install Stadium again and viola! Stadium's working no matter how many times I quit and load it up again.

... Until I restart my computer again. Once I restart it after I have Stadium working, it will crash on launch as usual.

Again, not sure if this will help, but I thought I'd mention it.
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by TMarc »

:shock: that's very strange.
After you restart your PC, and start ManiaPlanet, is there an update of the game displayed?

I can only think of some firewall or antivirus that blocks the game, perhaps because it is loading some data (the manialinks) from a address that is in some blacklist?
It did not at the first time, perhaps by pure chance, because the manialinks in the menus are also displayed randomly (or in a loop).

Anyone else had this issue already? :?
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by oblysk1 »

I found a fix! It doesn't make much sense to me, but it was actually Xfire that was making the game crash. I decided today to go through my System Tray on Windows and close/disable everything except for sound and graphics drivers. The game was working after that. So I restarted my computer (to get all of my startup programs running again) and closed the programs in the system tray one-by-one and tested the game in between. Lo and behold, Xfire was the culprit.

It's interesting because if I have Xfire running at all (whether I'm logged in or not), Stadium crashes. But once I exit out of Xfire, it runs just fine. I'm guessing Xfire may have updated at some point in the past few months and caused this crash for me.

Just thought I'd pass on this bit of info in case someone else seems to get this mysterious error. Thanks for all the help. You did allude to this earlier when you said
Some applications which use network might block a function of ManiaPlanet.
, but I just didn't think about Xfire at all.

Anyway, I'm just happy to have it working through Steam again!
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Re: [TM2] [CRASHES] Stadium Crashes on Launch only through S

Post by TMarc »

cool, great news.
Indeed, XFire is known to cause trouble in combination with ManiaPlanet,
but there should not be a crash only because of some network issues :|
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