LP calculation still fails

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LP calculation still fails

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Im dreammy on the screenshot.

Lower rank, 10x better score than megaseb. Still I lose the most LP.
Please explain.
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You are loosing points because you didn't win the map(only on gold) and you propably lost the most because you have the biggest number of LP in Europe(Asian leaderboard is smaller than in Europe so penalty is smaller)
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my teammate has more LP & he plays on EU servers...
He should have lost more LP.


Besides with my monster-score I shouldnt lose the most LP & you know it. Its not logical :(
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novationx wrote:my teammate has more LP & he plays on EU servers...
He should have lost more LP.
No he lost less LP because there is more player in his echelon. The penalty get bigger following the echelon :)

And djhubertus is right for the reason why megaseb lost less LP than you :)
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I have just made a change to increase the influence of the personal score at high level. The spirit was to insist on win/loss of matches, but I think we can test this way.

Thanks for the feedback and we will see how it goes.
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Cerovan wrote:
novationx wrote:my teammate has more LP & he plays on EU servers...
He should have lost more LP.
No he lost less LP because there is more player in his echelon. The penalty get bigger following the echelon :)

And djhubertus is right for the reason why megaseb lost less LP than you :)
We are in the same echelon... What are you saying Cerovan... ( Dreammy & Megaseb )
I really dont understand. Its not intuitive at all :oops:

Since when does location influence skill? Why would location be a factor? Really strange :oops:

PS : Maybe I missunderstood.

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novationx wrote:
Cerovan wrote:
novationx wrote:my teammate has more LP & he plays on EU servers...
He should have lost more LP.
No he lost less LP because there is more player in his echelon. The penalty get bigger following the echelon :)

And djhubertus is right for the reason why megaseb lost less LP than you :)
We are in the same echelon... What are you saying Cerovan... ( Dreammy & Megaseb )
I really dont understand. Its not intuitive at all :oops:.
Megaseb has the same echelon, but he isn't on the same ladder (Asia while your are on the EU ladder), that's why the number is different.
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So I can pay planets, change my location & get more LP in my matches?
Megaseb isnt even real asian...


Seems like a "cheat/boost" to me. No?
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it's a little complicated wince we can not easily mix the continents (ping) and it would be difficult for NA players to have a ladder here if it would be the same, for example. So, they have their own.
- if you change of region, I think you lose Planets & Ladder Points.
- there are less Echelon 9 players in continents with less players, but the function is not optimal yet
- the players with less LP can lose less since it depends of his Echelon point loss rate. The more there are players in that echelon, the more this loss of point will increase.
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Why is the location important in LP-calculation?

If I would make a ladder/ranking-system I would look at the following stats per player & compare it to the others:

- Current Rank
- Matches played in total
- Score during this match ( rockets/attacks )

Then compare it to the other players.

Did you play better than the others? Yes --> you lose the least LP.
Did you play worse than the others? Yes --> you lose the most LP.


I dont have "location" in this equation & I dont see any reason why I would.


EDIT : Its easier to become GOLD in other continents so when he plays on EU servers the system considers him as a "worse player"... Is that correct? So thats why he lost less LP? This I can understand :D
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