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[SOLVED][MP][CONTROLERS] Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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Greetings,

First of all, I searched the issue on Google and couldn't find any results.

Strangely, probably one of the latest updates broke my Maniaplanet client combined with SM en TM.
I haven't been playing in a half year, so today I wanted to play it again.

So the big issue is that my mouse buttons are not responding. When I start any game with maniaplanet (through Steam), I cannot use my mouse buttons (both left and right). I am not sure why it is not working. On every other game I play I don't have this issue. After not being able to use my mouse buttons, I had to use my keyboard to get through the menu's which luckly works partly, but not completely. The 'sensitivity' of the arrow keys are inhumanly fast that if I press an arrow key normally then it is flying all over the buttons that can be pressed in the menu's. So I just have to fast tap it to just only go 1 to the side.
Overall my mouse and keyboard input are not correctly recognised.

-I tried already checking integrity of gamefiles on Steam.
-Delete cachefiles.
-Eventually also deleting my programdata/maniaplanet and documents/maniaplanet files.
Nothing helped. I am not sure why I am the only one with this issue...
I can maybe reinstall the game completely, but I don't want to that and it takes a lot of time to redownload everything.

From the first time that Shootmania and Trackmania was released on Steam, I had it installed, and all the updates worked. Last time I played was 180 days ago, so something broke it for me.

Any suggestions what to do from people or devs, because this is just abnormal, never had this kind of issue ever.

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Re: Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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killerboye wrote:Greetings,

First of all, I searched the issue on Google and couldn't find any results.

Strangely, probably one of the latest updates broke my Maniaplanet client combined with SM en TM.
I haven't been playing in a half year, so today I wanted to play it again.

So the big issue is that my mouse buttons are not responding. When I start any game with maniaplanet (through Steam), I cannot use my mouse buttons (both left and right). I am not sure why it is not working. On every other game I play I don't have this issue. After not being able to use my mouse buttons, I had to use my keyboard to get through the menu's which luckly works partly, but not completely. The 'sensitivity' of the arrow keys are inhumanly fast that if I press an arrow key normally then it is flying all over the buttons that can be pressed in the menu's. So I just have to fast tap it to just only go 1 to the side.
Overall my mouse and keyboard input are not correctly recognised.

-I tried already checking integrity of gamefiles on Steam.
-Delete cachefiles.
-Eventually also deleting my programdata/maniaplanet and documents/maniaplanet files.
Nothing helped. I am not sure why I am the only one with this issue...
I can maybe reinstall the game completely, but I don't want to that and it takes a lot of time to redownload everything.

From the first time that Shootmania and Trackmania was released on Steam, I had it installed, and all the updates worked. Last time I played was 180 days ago, so something broke it for me.

Any suggestions what to do from people or devs, because this is just abnormal, never had this kind of issue ever.

Killerboye
Try to do CTRL+ALT+DEL, and with keyboard, go to monitor system ( don't know how to say it in english ), and close it ( the monitor system , just close ), and rego to Shootmania :3
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Re: Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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Guerro323 wrote: Try to do CTRL+ALT+DEL, and with keyboard, go to monitor system ( don't know how to say it in english ), and close it ( the monitor system , just close ), and rego to Shootmania :3
Nope doesn't work... Also I read the FAQ and maybe I could fix it by enabling cursor emulation, but that also didn't work :(

Any other people that can help?

Maybe it has to do with my mouse polling rate, I changed it once and I could get a click farther, but then it died again...

Can I maybe provide any log files or some sort to make solving this issue easier so I can start playing again.
Because if it stays the same, I sadly am going to leave sm for good... And I don't want that.
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Re: [MP:SM+TM][CONTROLERS] Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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A little summary:

My bug/issue: Mouse buttons not working, keyboard buttons (for example arrows) working, but not correctly.

Reproducing it: Starting any Maniaplanet game (SM or TM2 Stadium) through Steam (where I bought it). Mouse movement DOES work, but left/right button don't. Keyboard buttons work, but are highy sensitive. By pressing enter, I am able to login, but if I press ESC it glitches out like I pressed it 15 times already, same with arrowkeys.

Expectations of this bug: Everything works fine on my old laptop and also on my PC (half a year ago). Now on the same PC, it doesn't work anymore.

My Setup:
-Windows 8.1
-Intel i5 4670k
-Nvidia GTX 760
-8GB ram
-Simple Logitech Keyboard (no exact name)
-Roccat Kone XTD Mouse

What I already did currently:
-Reinstalled the game (by removing ALL Maniaplanet files and config)
-Latest GPU drivers + Latest DirectX versions
-Disabling Nvidia Shadowplay and Steam overlay
-Disabling all USB devices in device manager + Disconnecting them physically
-Using a different mouse (my old one which I used when I last played SM on my desktop)

Dxdiag: http://www.mediafire.com/view/ninyi40w5 ... DxDiag.txt
Also I open to use Teamviewer with any mods/devs :)
I just want to have this fixed asap


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Re: [MP:SM+TM][CONTROLERS] Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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Try removing any USB devices before starting ManiaPlanet, even the mouse...
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TMarc wrote:Try removing any USB devices before starting ManiaPlanet, even the mouse...
I am sorry that it didn't work. I didn't remove everything physical, but I just disabled all usb ports and devices that I know of in the device manager, except the keyboard, because otherwise I cannot get the game started.

In the post above, I added a dxdiag and some other stuff I tried. Hopefully you can find the issue... Because I am out of the ideas.
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You have to remove them phyically, because seomtimes USB devices can alter the bus speed, which results in unpredictable behavior. I fear disabling it in the device manager only disables the driver, but not the inter-hardware interactions.

And you can start the game well with only the keyboard or the mouse connected.
Just to see what is the cause.

In the past, e.g. a duplicate Saitek keyboard driver to the regular Microsoft driver caused a similar issue.
Here the solution was to remove the additonal HID device driver.
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TMarc wrote:You have to remove them phyically, because seomtimes USB devices can alter the bus speed, which results in unpredictable behavior. I fear disabling it in the device manager only disables the driver, but not the inter-hardware interactions.

And you can start the game well with only the keyboard or the mouse connected.
Just to see what is the cause.

In the past, e.g. a duplicate Saitek keyboard driver to the regular Microsoft driver caused a similar issue.
Here the solution was to remove the additonal HID device driver.
Nope... I tried it multiple times with only mouse or only keyboard. Nothing. To reach the USB ports at the back of my pc was really a pain in the ass. Because the case is inside my desk and cables are not that long :/

Any more suggestions? You want to use teamviewer maybe?

I would say, check the DxDiag txt file for more info.
Or maybe someone from Nadeo can help me.
I am probably the first one with this issue if nobody else had the issue first. Lastly I tried the separate non-Steam ManiaPlanet client, but exact same issues. Maybe changing something in the win register..

I actually find it quite stupid that you cannot access config files outside the game, because I wanted to open them before, but it's not humanly readable in Notepad.
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Re: [MP:SM+TM][CONTROLERS] Input Issues (Mouse/Keyboard)

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The only thing you can do is delete the configuration file (Default.SystemConfig.Gbx in the ManiaPlanet user files, folder config). It will be created again.
And in the configuration window for ManiaPlanet (select configure game instead of start game in Steam) you can try to use "alternative input method".
But this stting is for keyboard only, not for mouse.

Besides that, I think only Nadeo team can help further.
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TMarc wrote:The only thing you can do is delete the configuration file (Default.SystemConfig.Gbx in the ManiaPlanet user files, folder config). It will be created again.
And in the configuration window for ManiaPlanet (select configure game instead of start game in Steam) you can try to use "alternative input method".
But this stting is for keyboard only, not for mouse.

Besides that, I think only Nadeo team can help further.
Nope, thanks for your time, but nothing helped sadly... I just don't understand why only this game and nothing else has this issue... And also why now and not before. Or maybe there is somewhere a big flaw in my OS.

Also I find it quite strange that ManiaPlanet sets my resolution on 4K on the first run of the game if my monitor is only 1080p, but it doesn't put all graphics settings on max. (Just a sidenote/complain)

So can you help me to bring me in contact with the Nadeo Team please? It's really getting a little ridiculous now.
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