Hey guys, I'm a long time fan, United owner, and now Canyon. While the graphics are great, the game-play sucks, mostly because of the Blocks!! .... The Wall rides and Loops are just to big to have any real fun with .. and the skinny country roads are just too skinny to really get into .... This also causes the gap between noob and pro to be too wide!!
and why are we still using some command line importer for cars ?? Its been a YEAR GUYS!! I remember we were told we'd be able to import Custom Blocks and everything ... and you don't even have animated signs anymore !! .... Who dropped the ball on that .... The new graphics look great! But the rest of the game is very disappointing !!
Nations Blocks Request!!
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when you have an old computer, or a desktop, you can't even see those graphics, tho it lags more anyway. generally, +1.
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I agree on the lack of blocks part. Hopefully it will all come together with the illusive Maniaplanet 2.0 update but i doubt that to be really honest.
Commandline importer? You save your zips from maniapark in the right folder straight away and they are ready to use or am I missing something?justanother1 wrote: ...and why are we still using some command line importer for cars ??
You are a tiny 8 months off but yeah it's taking a while indeed.justanother1 wrote:Its been a YEAR GUYS!!
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NO .. they beta came out last February, and they'd been promising the game for two years before !!! The importer is for Car Makers, Guy who do 3d modeling. Supporting MODs, custom skins and cars is Why these games were so cool ... You could literally make your world all your own. And we spent Hours doing it and loving it!! As far as the Animated signs ... Canyon won't play on a slow computer .. I know .... I bought the beta first day out, I was in here, griping when their Credit Card Company wouldn't except our payments !! .... only to find out that the slow computer I had wouldn't play it !!! ... took me 6 months to get my hands on a better one .... but even my old slow one would play Nations/United with the animations just fine ... Those tiny .bik files weren't bothersome at all ... They were just to Cheap to buy the license to use it this time .... As I understand MicroSoft dropped some funding ... enter the FreeZone 2011 era.. which really screwed up things for most of the Sever owner/operators ... who are mostly independent, nice guys not emplyed by Nadeo at all !! Look I get it, You need this game to Pay! and the sales aren't nearly what you projected. But this game as is has so many bugs it's still a Beta as far as I'm concerned ..
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The very closed beta began in July not February.
For Animated Signs, it's because it's not compatible with shadows actually.
And I will not answer to other things, I have already answer several times on this forum.
For Animated Signs, it's because it's not compatible with shadows actually.
Nadeo is happy with sales, it's more than they hoped.justanother1 wrote:Look I get it, You need this game to Pay! and the sales aren't nearly what you projected.
And I will not answer to other things, I have already answer several times on this forum.
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Such a shame that they delivered the game with great graphics but a lack of good old TM gameplay.
Why presenting canyon first, while they know that almost every TM player loves stadium the most.
Is it because they want us to buy canyon first and safe the best environment for last? But how about that players will lose interesed and trust in the upcoming environments because canyon sucks that much?
I mis the overall gameplay quality that stadium has. TM2 would have become a succes if they put all their energy on only 1 environment with great and a lot more buildingblocks.
And I agree, a lot of blocks in TM2C are just useless, stupid loops, to small roads. Its just not the fast, fun and relaxing game experience that stadium has.
Better tested blocks and more quality fun blocks are the key for better gameplay in TM2. We also need 10 times the amount of blocks that where presented with canyon. New game: is more blocks, more fun blocks and better tested blocks! Please Nadeo! Dont spread the blocks over 3 environments, its just an environment. Give us 1 good environment. I'm willing to pay the price of 50 euro for 1 extreme good environment, but not 3 times 20 euro for 3 environments that are not well developed enough.
Why presenting canyon first, while they know that almost every TM player loves stadium the most.
Is it because they want us to buy canyon first and safe the best environment for last? But how about that players will lose interesed and trust in the upcoming environments because canyon sucks that much?
I mis the overall gameplay quality that stadium has. TM2 would have become a succes if they put all their energy on only 1 environment with great and a lot more buildingblocks.
And I agree, a lot of blocks in TM2C are just useless, stupid loops, to small roads. Its just not the fast, fun and relaxing game experience that stadium has.
Better tested blocks and more quality fun blocks are the key for better gameplay in TM2. We also need 10 times the amount of blocks that where presented with canyon. New game: is more blocks, more fun blocks and better tested blocks! Please Nadeo! Dont spread the blocks over 3 environments, its just an environment. Give us 1 good environment. I'm willing to pay the price of 50 euro for 1 extreme good environment, but not 3 times 20 euro for 3 environments that are not well developed enough.
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Happy with sales? yeah okay initial sales would have been good, of coarse, every fool out there thought they was getting Stadium 2. But after BUYING TM2 Canyon, you know what you have now?jonthekiller wrote:Nadeo is happy with sales, it's more than they hoped.
http://oi49.tinypic.com/160q13a.jpg
That's a screenshot taken 5 minutes ago.
Lets add up those numbers ....
43 Players online.
I've played on ONE stadium server with more players. Yeah good thinking Nadeo

How about just admitting that you stuffed up BIG TIME thinking you could ignore the MAJORITY and get away with it.
Those numbers above do not lie. People are not interested in Canyon nowhere near as much as Stadium. But will you listen? NO!
You will stubbornly refuse to listen to the MAJORITY, but even worse, those who try and help, point out the massive mistake you've made are abused here and told to go away.
Culprit number one (Trackmaniac) all throughout these forums telling people "If you don't like Canyon, don't play it" well you got your wish buddy. The above screenshot clearly shows people are going elsewhere. Me included.
And you want to bring out MORE environments and charge people MORE money?

Good luck with that.
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Those numbers above do not lie. People are not interested in Canyon nowhere near as much as Stadium. But will you listen? NO!
You will stubbornly refuse to listen to the MAJORITY, but even worse, those who try and help, point out the massive mistake you've made are abused here and told to go away.
Totally agree with the above!
I know that Nadeo didn't want to make a remake of Stadium and doesn't have plans for it so far. But instead they decided to make other environments for TM2. But why choose other environment like Canyon, while the only environment the majority of people like is STADIUM. And thats not because it is free to play. Its because stadium has a more arcade simplicity of the steering and because the blocks are far more fun then the other environments have. It just works in Stadium.
A better strategy for Nadeo would be to make a remake of the far more popular Stadium but with even better and far more blocks. Instead of trying to sell us 3 environmenst with lesser and not well tested building blocks.
And why not a free to play model and get their moneyflow from selling or renting servers and ingame advertisement.
Its a pay model that fits TM more than trying to sell it for 60 bucks. I bet that sales for TM2 Canyon are far more worse then they would have hoped for. And with the impression they gave us with Canyon I fear even more for Valley.
Stadium 2 is what we like to see!!... With more support.... Far More blocks.... Better tested blocks.... Free to play model with a moneyflow from ingame advertisement and renting servers, selling cars etc.etc. .... And trackmania would be saved!
You can do it Nadeo!

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43 players online in work day and in work time (in europe), it's niceWhoever wrote: http://oi49.tinypic.com/160q13a.jpg
That's a screenshot taken 5 minutes ago.
Lets add up those numbers ....
43 Players online.

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especially for the rest of the worldwide...RamCUP2000 wrote: 43 players online in work day and in work time (in europe), it's nice
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