Why did you ruin trackmania? Driving sucks

[DRIVER355]

I have just started playing trackmania nations forever and there are stuff i dont like about it but still the driving is great

i am playing sim and arcade racers like lfs,nfs,dirt,race injection etc. but trackmania nations was something completely different to me and i love it.
Today i tried TM2,i have seen some vids on youtube and i do like that it is a car and not a formula and it looks good,BUT then i started playing it and WOW,what did you do,why did you do it?

Did people complain about driving in previous trackmania? in tm2 it is like a nfs game but even worse,also the only view that can be used is chase cam and i hate that,bumper view is too low and also with all the flips,crashes it is very bad

p.s.
Is there a way to use car skin from this game in trackmania nations forever?

[SuperP]

if u did bought the game u will get use to it(the driving), everybody was skeptic about the driving/sliding in the first days, but after a bit everything will change. i think the driving its fun and at the same time a bit challenging(especially on canyon small roads). Dunno but to me the driving has that unique canyon feeling and the chemistry with the environment its awesome.

[luke7777]

Come back after you've played it for a month and tell us how you feel then Nations (Stadium) is only a small portion of the TM games... and handling in each environment is totally different to the rest. If you've bought/played TMU, rather than Nations, you would understand. Having played TM2 since the beta last year, I now totally suck at Stadium racing.... too slow, drifting is a pain, etc.

[metoxys]

Having played TM2 since the beta last year, I now totally suck at Stadium racing.... too slow, drifting is a pain, etc.

+1

[slumpy]

Having played TM2 since the beta last year, I now totally suck at Stadium racing.... too slow, drifting is a pain, etc.

+1

The same for me, but the dirt is missing me, nothing good as that on canyon.

[metoxys]

The same for me, but the dirt is missing me, nothing good as that on canyon.

Drive outside the building area. Good times.

[eyebo]

I have just started playing trackmania nations forever and there are stuff i dont like about it but still the driving is great

If you just started on Nations Forever, it's highly doubtful you know the environment well enough to make a fair comparison.

i am playing sim and arcade racers like lfs,nfs,dirt,race injection etc. but trackmania nations was something completely different to me and i love it.

Awesome! I love it too!

Today i tried TM2,i have seen some vids on youtube and i do like that it is a car and not a formula and it looks good,BUT then i started playing it and WOW,what did you do,why did you do it?

Canyon isn't a direct sequel to Nations in the way you probably thought it would be. It's a unique environment, just like Island, Rally, Bay, Desert, Snow, Coast, and Stadium are all different from each other. They are all environments of the past TrackMania titles.

Canyon too has it's own unique personality and physics. It's very fun once you learn it; learn when to initiate drifts and how to control the physics of the car through different block configurations. There's hours of fun in this game, if you give it a chance and look at it from a fresh perspective.

Did people complain about driving in previous trackmania?

For sure. Many who started on TrackMania Original or TrackMania Sunrise were not keen on the Stadium environment introduced with TrackMania Nations. Some were, some weren't. There are always people who find it hard to adapt to change. Gradually, even many of the original naysayers have come around and found the Stadium environment offered in Nations Forever to be fun to build in and to drive. Some still vehemently oppose it.

in tm2 it is like a nfs game but even worse,also the only view that can be used is chase cam and i hate that,bumper view is too low and also with all the flips,crashes it is very bad

I don't know what you mean by saying its like nfs. It feels totally different to me from any nfs game I've played. The only similarity would seem to be the fact that drifting plays an important role and that it is indeed a driving game.

There are three preset cameras you can use. Camera 1 is well suited to my own driving since it allows you to see well in advance stuff coming up on the track. Camera 2 is a little lower and gives you a better sense of being in the action. Camera 3 is the bumper cam that you feel is too low. I do know some players who use it. I think a lot of people would enjoy having more camera preset options, but these three presets have always served TM quite well.

All the flips and crashes are part of what makes TM a fun game. You try not to mess up, but when you do... you're always going to have some epic stunt crashes. With the new damage of the TM2 car, it adds to that fun.

p.s.
Is there a way to use car skin from this game in trackmania nations forever?

Get this file:
http://www.trackmania-carpark.com/car.php?id=2113

And put it in:
Documents\TrackMania\Skins\Vehicles\CarCommon\

Voila! The Canyon model in TM Nations Forever.

I must say though, I dislike the title of this topic. I've seen other topics around the forums worded similarly. It makes the idea that Nadeo ruined TM a foregone conclusion. It's not. It's totally subjective. There are tens of thousands of people who DO enjoy Canyon and play it regularly. Really, it's just a matter of giving the game a chance and looking at it for what it is, not at how it's different or similar to something else.

[Omnixor]

> Canyon too has it's own unique personality and physics. It's very fun once you learn it; learn when to initiate drifts and how to control the physics of the car through different block configurations. There's hours of fun in this game, if you give it a chance and look at it from a fresh perspective.

for topicstarter I'd rather suggest - if you didn't instantly started to love Canyon, don't force yourself to play it. better go back to Nations, fun is the most important.


> There are three preset cameras you can use. Camera 1 is well suited to my own driving since it allows you to see well in advance stuff coming up on the track. Camera 2 is a little lower and gives you a better sense of being in the action. Camera 3 is the bumper cam that you feel is too low. I do know some players who use it. I think a lot of people would enjoy having more camera preset options, but these three presets have always served TM quite well.

cam1 is muuuch lower in Canyon than in all older envis.


> All the flips and crashes are part of what makes TM a fun game. You try not to mess up, but when you do... you're always going to have some epic stunt crashes. With the new damage of the TM2 car, it adds to that fun.

I think topicstarter meant that when you flip, crash and etc, even cam1 flies around your car like crazy. in tm1 it was much more stable.


> There are tens of thousands of people who DO enjoy Canyon and play it regularly.

rather just tens of people^^ I'm exaggerating ofc, but I don't think there's more than 5000 regular Canyon players.

[Romain42]

for topicstarter I'd rather suggest - if you didn't instantly started to love Canyon, don't force yourself to play it. better go back to Nations, fun is the most important.

Although i agree with your last 5 words, i believe advising is a bit more complicated. If his friends/teammates massively switched to Canyon, he might have more fun playing Canyon with them, than Stadium alone (the opposite works as well). The other thing i have to highlight is that even if i didn't like that much Canyon at the beginning (i actually hated this weird environment), the more i play it, the more i like it.

[eyebo]

I think it's true of many things in life that they are an acquired taste.

In other words, you may not like it at first, but with increased exposure to it, you may begin to appreciate and enjoy it. For myself, this has been true of horseradish, mustard, lemons, coffee, electronic music, and even reading.

But those are all things I love now.

The same was actually true when I first got TrackMania (it was TM Nations ESWC). It wasn't that I disliked it, but for me the fun was derived from playing it with friends at a LAN. I was pretty bad at the game itself, and I didn't think I'd ever get good enough, nor did I have the desire, to really enjoy it for the game itself. I dare say I enjoy the game itself a lot more going back to it now than I actually did when I first played it.

I quit TM for 8 months or so after originally playing it. I only picked it up again when I saw a different version of it, United, which I thought I'd try out. I was really bad at driving nearly everything and even disliked most of the environments. Island was the environment that really held my interest at first. I played a lot of it, because it was comfortable. But over time I ended up playing tracks in the other environments as well... sometimes to beat medals in the solo campaign... sometimes because a non-Island environment came up on a server I was playing on. Gradually I improved my skill and appreciation for these other environments and now I'm really happy that I love driving all of them. I would have missed out on so much if I had simply given up on them at first and completely avoided them.

The same is true for Canyon. I was pretty bad at it at first. Thankfully when I got it the game was new and most tracks being built were fairly easy, so that helped me ease into playing it. But had I given up at the start due to bad skill and being unable to control the car... I would have missed out on so much fun.

I'm not saying you have to always do things you dislike. But sometimes having a little patience with something you may be unskilled at can yield great rewards later on; learning a musical instrument, trying a new food, listening to a new type of music.

Don't give up on Canyon just because you don't at first understand it.