ENVIMIX - Play the same map with different cars (OUT OPEN-SOURCED)

[BigBang1112]

Hi,

I was playing on the titlepack on channels... would it be possible to add somekind of highlite of own time at the scoreboard... quad on background or something... So you could faster see where you are on the list - there's so many columns Also if it's possible, maybe you could also highlite the current car also for faster glance at scoreboard

Thanks for the ideas.
I'll definitely add the player highlight thing soon, great little feature, and perhaps the current car even though I don't know because the scoreboard was designed way too fast and many things haven't been thought up so implementation is almost impossible.

Hopefully many things will be sorted out later after I'll remake the title pack.

[reaby]

I'll definitely add the player highlight thing soon, great little feature, and perhaps the current car even though I don't know because the scoreboard was designed way too fast and many things haven't been thought up so implementation is almost impossible.

Hopefully many things will be sorted out later after I'll remake the title pack.

Cool!

Thinking of easiest possible solution and maybe it would just change the color of highlighted time and player. And for the car highlite, maybe just a simple "modulate color" would work nicely, since the car image itself is white That way it would require just to add that one parameter for the quad or maniascript and no other changes to the layout

Many thanks for great titlepack

[BigBang1112]

Thank you so much for still playing this title pack.

New skin update is out now.

[Miss]

The menu has some issues. Whenever I enter some other menu, the menu starts freaking out in the background. Which, if a style choice, seems like a very strange choice to me, as it looks like a bug to me.

In the skins menu, it took me a very long time to figure out that the "back" button is actually a "forwards" button hidden on top of these logos that are all on top of each other for some reason:



Is there supposed to be a rating thing in this box?



The log is spamming an error every couple seconds, too, which seems suspicious:

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Script 'Scripts/MainMenu.Script.txt': WARN [48, 16] Could not find the server
        MainMenu::UpdateServerInfo() [48, 16]
        MainMenu::Main() [160, 20]

How does the "unfinished" button even work? It just shows a bunch of car names:



Also, what is the percentage? The help button doesn't actually help:



(Although I'm assuming a lot of these errors are because your server is offline.. eh)

[BigBang1112]

Thanks Miss for the detailed answer.
I ended the official development and support of this title pack this February and I only did 3 special updates in the 6 month period. I didn't care much about the design flaws. The title pack will be completely remade once the Challenge is completed (within few months) and I'm highly aware of the improfessionality this title pack has.

I'll explain the exact points though.

In the skins menu, it took me a very long time to figure out that the "back" button is actually a "forwards" button hidden on top of these logos that are all on top of each other for some reason:

I didn't personally think the direction of the arrow matters, as in the bottom it shows the "away" direction and it's the most visible button - actually isn't ye, because 3 days after I put this back button here, I put there the Grinding advertisement which I noticed a bit overlapped after 2 days after I pushed it. Because it sounds kinda minor to me, I didn't bother to spend 40 minutes for registering and uploading the title pack on an sort of abandoned project. xd

Is there supposed to be a rating thing in this box?

Rating was a feature I abandoned in November due to the authorizing problems which arrived after 4.1 update. United cars aren't tracked in the database and because of probably that the boxes doesn't show.

The log is spamming an error every couple seconds, too, which seems suspicious:

I don't know what's suspicious about trying to FIND a server but okay. xd Yeah, I'm automatically searching for servers which are abandoned too btw because they were dead. xd I have to do this with GetServerInfo() function, but this function tends to drop this log always when it doesn't find a server. And I don't know how to check if the specific server is online without showing this up in the log. (I maybe got an idea now by discovering local servers and filtering them, but again, the code is spagetti and I don't wanna be part of it anymore)

How does the "unfinished" button even work? It just shows a bunch of car names:

It shows which cars you didn't finish the map with, simple as that.

Also, what is the percentage? The help button doesn't actually help:

How many cars from all 2340 combinations have you finished, in percentage.
Help is outdated as well and again, I don't wanna visit this Italian restaurant again.

[Miss]

I don't know what's suspicious about trying to FIND a server but okay. xd

I meant suspicious as in there being something wrong suspicious

Good to know you're aware of the problems though!

[BigBang1112]

New era of Envimix coming soon!

[McBain]

Sounds like a pretty cool update!

I have some questions:
- Envimix TA means I can switch the car on the fly on server? So basically I could hunt for the best time with the fastest car?
- Envimania: wow that sounds cool. Looking forward maybe you have a glimpse already?
- Is this carmix possible with any kind of map or is there some special validation needed?
- (Envimix Chase would be nice but haha I think we are only a small community crazy enough for it)

Saying it loud knowing its probably imposs ( ): Multi-Titlepack would be THE feature for me. ESL Titlepack maps with Island Titlepack maps on the very same server :p

[BigBang1112]

Sounds like a pretty cool update!

I have some questions:
- Envimix TA means I can switch the car on the fly on server? So basically I could hunt for the best time with the fastest car?
- Envimania: wow that sounds cool. Looking forward maybe you have a glimpse already?
- Is this carmix possible with any kind of map or is there some special validation needed?
- (Envimix Chase would be nice but haha I think we are only a small community crazy enough for it)

Saying it loud knowing its probably imposs ( ): Multi-Titlepack would be THE feature for me. ESL Titlepack maps with Island Titlepack maps on the very same server :p

1. Yes, the major feature is that you don't have to change the map to play with a different car. You can select a car of your wish at any time (in TimeAttack/TeamAttack at least), but don't forget that the car speed isn't the only factor. Acceleration, material physics, car gravity make a big difference in the final time too.
2. Currently I gotta admit that Envimania is currently purely in theory, but a long-thought theory. You will need to just verify the server and things will be ready to go (even for the LAN server most likely). It will be much easier to set up than a server controller, local records, Dedimania, and others.
3. You can no problem carmix any map that was validated with the default car.
   Simply said, you just need to take an existing map, and that map will be playable with any car just fine in this gamemode.
   Not simply said, this kind of map can be understood as "only validated by the default car", but you can still play it with other cars. If you want to verify more cars and mark them as 100% possible, the Envimix MapType is the way to go. This will be needed for the Envimix Cup gamemode for example.
4. Envimix Chase was on a thought too for sure. But it's hard to balance it, as you can't define the car difference just by speed. And you can't change your car in real time.

To your last wish, this is unfortunately impossible due to strict nature of title packs. You will be able to play these maps just fine with different cars, but you can't have different kinds of maps on a single server - as server is titlepack-based.

Thank you for your kind message and questions.

[McBain]

Thanks a lot for the kind feedback

One last question blew to my mind reading your answers. When setting up a server in the titlepack would it load
- the default car of the map by default
- or the one you set somehow different (similar pursuit but you can switch on every map change)
- or you just have to choose at the beginning of every map (like in your channel?)