Maniaplanet after 5 Years - What does the community say?

[Ozon]

Looks like it's time to lock another thread.

[Dommy]

Looks like it's time to lock another thread.

Nah, all discussions like this after some time get locked because it's the easiest solution for moderators. For players it's not >.<.

[Lorisa]

Now I see that this ManiaPlanet. It's a closed society with a closed group. Where are all the posts of dissidents are closed or removed and erased. Because people do not want to physically to perceive someone else - who are different from them, and who speaks and thinks differently than they do.
Although not all but most do not understand me. So sad.

[TMarc]

This is still a open community and a open forum, for open minded people.
Only posts that have absolutely nothing to do with topics are moved or deleted, if they are offending, insulting, spam, or violating the other forum rules, or don't bring any new information.

Lorisa, now listen carefully, I won't repeat it again.
This topic began with a neutral question, but your postings makes every thread turn into useless and tiring debates, although you know perfectly that nothing will directly change in the next months (Nadeo wrote many times: no news yet).
Your almost constantly unreasonable behavior makes others don't feel like they are welcome here.
Why can't you stop this needling towards all the others who don't think like you?
Many others told you it is enough now, but you don't listen, or you don't want understand, it looks the same to me.

You also have to learn to accept other meanings without always fulminating against them.
If you feel that much misunderstood, perhaps you should write in another part of the forum that has your own language, and then the others might understand you much better.

And now, last call, please stick to the topic, or your posts will be removed without further warning.
After all, you wrote several times you would quit (the forum).
We could call you when there are better news, let's say in latest half a year then.
If you still don't want to cooperate with the community, it is your decision, but then you don't have any place here.
Think well before you do anything now, and I recommend you to not answer directly. Think, pause, sleep, think, and then you can let us know.

Perhaps the community should decide what to do here, because I'm getting tired of all this.
Nadeo people get paid for what they do, but me and the other moderators (red and blue name colors) don't, we are here in our leisure time, and only because we share the passion for the games, but certainly not to suffer all the time from bad mood.

Besides this, killaprodtm has started this topic, so he can also ask to close this topic if he thinks that there is no good answer anymore.

[tombuilder]

Many people replied here and had so many vaild (or sometimes not) points and opinions. I love this game so much for so many reasons and years already. But tbh, most of the people who are still around are the same like some years ago. The new players come and go, and only some stay and I don`t know why. It feels like all the people arguing here or playing the game are allways the same. For me the game is almost perfect (bugs aside), but what is missing are the players, nothing more. The possibilities are endless, but we need people using it.

[Nerpson]

That's also my opinion. More players. That's what we need. Maybe we can expect advertisements coming with the new TM.

[HaagseSmurf]

That's also my opinion. More players. That's what we need. Maybe we can expect advertisements coming with the new TM.

[nighthawk4571]

Now allow me to publish my opinion initially was to be built ManiaPlanet........ As you all can not understand me now.......

(Sorry for bad english)

I do NOT wish to be unfriendly here but : I think this is the real problem for Lorisa. These forums are divided into different language areas, so players can express themselves easily. Maybe he/ she is no linger welcome in his/ her native language section - this may be possible, since most posts have been of a negative nature and have ignored other people's opinions and arguments.

* I'm not impressed at all by his forum signature either!

I forced myself to read through Lorisa's last post and again I found it to be very hard to understand the points being made. English is one of the most awkward languages on Earth, as it has 'stolen' so many words and phrases from other places and Google has struggled with their online translator without success - it's hopeless!

So, the two things I get from struggling with Lorisa's posts are:
1. He/ she is determined to generate arguments over issues which have been thoroughly bashed for years; and
2. Actually trying to get clear meaning out of Lorisa's 'English' is extremely frustrating.

I will not be looking at any future posts by this player, as I come into these forums looking for new ideas, entertainment and friendly contact with our global community.

This is still a open community and a open forum, for open minded people.
Only posts that have absolutely nothing to do with topics are moved or deleted, if they are offending, insulting, spam, or violating the other forum rules, or don't bring any new information.

Lorisa, now listen carefully, I won't repeat it again. ..... Your almost constantly unreasonable behavior makes others don't feel like they are welcome here.
Why can't you stop this needling towards all the others who don't think like you?
Many others told you it is enough now, but you don't listen, or you don't want understand, it looks the same to me.

You also have to learn to accept other meanings without always fulminating against them.
If you feel that much misunderstood, perhaps you should write in another part of the forum that has your own language, and then the others might understand you much better....

I am one of many who really appreciate the time and effort put in by TMarc and other moderators and I think TMarc has been very patient & reasonable in this case. I would not dare post in a non-English section unless I was certain that my comments would be clearly understood - whether I was being positive or negative. Sadly, Lorisa's posts are just a mish-mash of scrambled English and have become a waste of time (moderator's and players). It is nothing more than classic SPAM, having no more value to me than 'Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet'. Enough is surely enough!

* My own response to this topic:

Having played regularly since October 2003, I am unashamedly a fan of all Trackmania/ ManiaPlanet games; I play almost every day; I run servers for Original, ESWC, United, MP Stadium (regular & RPG), Valley and Canyon (regular & RPG); My servers are empty most of the time BUT I DON"T CARE! It is rare for me to see other Members of Bag Racing online but I still DON'T CARE! There are things I can do on those servers because I control them and I can leave them running empty while I play happily with players on other servers.

I have a life, so whatever is or is not happening in the TM universe does not change my 'real world' at all. I come here for a break, to have fun and to keep in touch with the 'TM friends' I've made over the years. I don't let the low number of players bother me too much, as I can always find someone to play with or I can mess around with the Solo mode or the tools.

A recent example of how I 'waste' my time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK7NXSv5x8c

I may have some suggestions for tools and the way Titles are managed but others have already covered those quite well. So after all these years, where I've always had a great time - especially online - I'm still happy to wait until developments come along. Basically, as one of the TM Geriatrics, I'm happy!

Cheers

[Lorisa]

I do NOT wish to be unfriendly here but :
Blah-blah-blah-blah.. some unknown blah-blah..

You know that. I guess you're right. Now I never to write anything or respond in English branch. Goodbye forever
I'm out!

[gugaruz]

1) Lorisa disturbs a bit!

2) My own response to this topic:

1) yes, i fully agree with you nighthawk, after reading his posts it was really a waste of time

2) nice writing part, you have a good attitude to this game and i have to make some thoughts after reading your post (positive ones)

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My statement:

-First i was a bit confused about mp and the titlepack creation. i get used of them and it is good, but it is as i thought before that title packs split players.

-After some time mp turns out into a good system, what combines all "nadeo games" in one, so if the team develops new games, we can easy run mp and can choose the current game what you like

-the only disturbing thing is the long loading screen of mp (first it was under 10 seconds and now it's between 3 and 5 minutes).

-it's nice to see that nadeo works on a 5 year old game, which you have to buy once and nadeo do afterwork for this game.

so, those were some thoughts about maniaplanet after 5 years from my side


edit: and sry lorisa, don't take it personally, cause i can't judge it.
i just dislike your hard negatives "blaming other ppl" posts and not more