@NadeoDevs

[Lorisa]

next beta

But when it will be? This year or next? No one knows exactly.

[TMarc]

But when it will be? This year or next? No one knows exactly.

When exactly: yeah, no one knows.
Most probably: short before summer (if they do a beta... for TM title X)

[Lorisa]

When exactly: yeah, no one knows.
Most probably: short before summer (if they do a beta... for TM title X)

Okay, let's wait. I'm not sure what would be TM

[TMarc]

Okay, let's wait. I'm not sure what would be TM

Now, understand this for ever: TrackMania is being developed since years only inside ManiaPlanet.
There will not be any further official development on the old Nadeo games.
If there is any new title, irrelevant if it is TrackMania, ShootMania, one day even Questmania, they will all be placed inside ManiaPlanet.

And if you still don't get it: TM = The Maniaplanet

[Lorisa]

Okay, let's wait. I'm not sure what would be TM

Now, understand this for ever: TrackMania is being developed since years only inside ManiaPlanet.
There will not be any further official development on the old Nadeo games.
If there is any new title, irrelevant if it is TrackMania, ShootMania, one day even Questmania, they will all be placed inside ManiaPlanet.

And if you still don't get it: TM = The Maniaplanet

Thank you for the explanation.
I really hate to repeat it but I perceive Maniaplanet separately from Trackmania. Sorry for my English.

[Dommy]

Thanks Nadeo for the whole ez2mod ManiaPlanet platform, there we can realize our imagination.

Thank you for allowing us to create custom content, such as:
ManiaControl, eXpansion, UAseco, ConvertAssistant, Paragon Legaue, CPlay Series, TrackMania News, MX Knockouts, SmurfsCups, Custom TrackMania campaigns, tons of dedicated servers, items, actions, Giving Gamers, ManiaExchange, ManiaPark, ManiaViewer, ManiaCalendar, variety of TM & SM teams, forum global moderators, TutorialPlanet, TitlePack Center, Weekly Race, FindMe, ManiaFlashes, Toolkit app, GBX Dump, Elite Stats, TM & MP Unlimiters, MatchMaking, tutorials and documentations, manialinks Jailbreak, InstaDM, CTF, Obstacle, SpeedBall, RPG Title Pack, Infection, Pursuit, Invasion, Hunger Games, SDPro, Legends, Paranoia Horror map, Oscillation, Doppler, music tools, Endurance, Platform, Stunters, NRL Title Pack, Go4SM, Dreammy's reports and suggestions, crazy and dumb modes, ESL TrackMania, player & car skins & models, texture mods, Tetris manialink, crosshairs, minimaps, milions of negative/positive discussions, fragmovies, SM bots, trailers, community movie clips, Screenshots Challenge, Steam Workshop, Environment mixing, ...and tons of other i couldn't remember.

Developing own stuff inside your game makes us same developers as you, except you give us tools, that we use them in proper way.

After all of this has been made, it's a good moment to leave ManiaPlanet forever.
Just kidding, let's make some more stuff!

[TMarc]

this impressive list should appear on the credits of the next release

[Lorisa]

Thanks Nadeo for the whole ez2mod ManiaPlanet platform, there we can realize our imagination.

Thank you for allowing us to create custom content, such as:
ManiaControl, eXpansion, UAseco, ConvertAssistant, Paragon Legaue, CPlay Series, TrackMania News, MX Knockouts, SmurfsCups, Custom TrackMania campaigns, tons of dedicated servers, items, actions, Giving Gamers, ManiaExchange, ManiaPark, ManiaViewer, ManiaCalendar, variety of TM & SM teams, forum global moderators, TutorialPlanet, TitlePack Center, Weekly Race, FindMe, ManiaFlashes, Toolkit app, GBX Dump, Elite Stats, TM & MP Unlimiters, MatchMaking, tutorials and documentations, manialinks Jailbreak, InstaDM, CTF, Obstacle, SpeedBall, RPG Title Pack, Infection, Pursuit, Invasion, Hunger Games, SDPro, Legends, Paranoia Horror map, Oscillation, Doppler, music tools, Endurance, Platform, Stunters, NRL Title Pack, Go4SM, Dreammy's reports and suggestions, crazy and dumb modes, ESL TrackMania, player & car skins & models, texture mods, Tetris manialink, crosshairs, minimaps, milions of negative/positive discussions, fragmovies, SM bots, trailers, community movie clips, Screenshots Challenge, Steam Workshop, Environment mixing, ...and tons of other i couldn't remember.

Developing own stuff inside your game makes us same developers as you, except you give us tools, that we use them in proper way.

After all of this has been made, it's a good moment to leave ManiaPlanet forever.
Just kidding, let's make some more stuff!

Yeah, it looks good. However, only one of all I like TrackMania. (I know about horrible shadows in Canyon, poor texture trees in the Valley).

No one will change my opinion. (except in the ShootMania smart bots will and the ability to maintain posture "lose", "won", generate a full parkour and action maker without distortion textures and ugly creepy bugs).

In general ManiaPlanet is fine . But developers need move further, creating new and did not dwell on something one. (I mean ShootMania) I'm all, for adding a new environment in TrackMania.

(But I think that now is not a priority for them as well as our wishes, no one will listen to and even more so to do that. I'm sure that they have a personal plan. They just do not care at all that we have. They make the game for themselves, not for us. And why? Because our suggestions, tips, no matter what is that, just do not need. Anyway, why'd I just tell you that? Let's develop the ShootMania, and the rest just simply RIP. I'm ashamed to admit it, to all of you, but I do not believe in Nadeo.
Thank you for a wonderful TrackMania games that you have presented. I hope that in the future we will see something new. However now I just do not believe you. Sorry).

I hope that the next environment will not ShootMania.

Later.

[Demented]

Great Topic Eyebo!
I gotta agree. I think for many of the Dev's this is a passion, even a lifestyle that they would still be doing even if it wasn't for a paycheck. This becomes obvious when you see them do things they don't have to do just because we the players think it would be fun or cool or simply make things easier to use.
Also when you see the excitement in the eyes of Hylis just before a release... You know it's a passion and not just a job.

[novationx]

in the eyes of Hylis just before a release...

Live webcam sessions?:D