This community is only competitive

[Dommy]

Besides lack of communication between Nadeo and the players, I personally see another reasons of low player base.

1. Elite ruining this game
Before: I don't count Paragon Leagues, I speak about things Nadeo wants to sell us.
Yes, Nadeo is advertising this game for Elite only. Elite - the most BORING mode in all competitive games I have ever seen. 3vs3 format (pff, rather 1vs3), sometimes +1 from defenders side, +1 from attacker side, maybe pole capture, maybe +0. Everything Nadeo wants to sell us for competitive scene is Elite. Guys, please... You made Combo, which is 9001 times more exciting than Elite. Mode where players stay in non-stop fights, can pick up items and switch weapons, but NO. Elite is better. I'm curious how these 50 people on matchmaking can play this.

2. Many competitive players are bullies
Maybe half of current competitors aren't as nice as second half. "Ow, this player has 2 lower echelon than us, let's kick him!" "Oh, we got +10 ping because someone joined, let's kick this guy!" "Oy, this player is not French, let's kick him!". Before you complain how Nadeo doesn't care about the game, give a look that current "community" represents.

3. No place for fun
About 2/3 of players in this game is playing only for competitions. On forum: "you play casual? Try our new competitive series for beginners!". NO. Most of the players in every game I ever seen don't care about the stressful, money-motored competitive scenes. They want to play for fun. The only three fun modes played for now are Battle, Siege and Infection.

4. No place for fun = no motivation for creators
Because only very small part of the current player base plays the game for fun, creators of fun title packs like me don't have motivation to continue their work anymore. For example I'm going to release updates for my titles after all other projects are done, but if nobody will play it then, I'll leave them unsupported forever (Inv & HG). No new fun modes = no players playing for fun.

5. Custom modes completely ignored by Nadeo
Steeffeen made SpeedBall title pack, Mewin did CTF, Law is creator of Interface and DuelElite, but Nadeo doesn't care (Elite strikes back).

6. Obstacle
Guys, this is SHOOTER game, not a Mirrors Edge multiplayer copy or TrackMania without cars. Plz.

7. This game is too French
Gdziekolwiek gram, wszędzie serwery są w 50% zapełnione Francuzami, piszącymi w ich języku. Ok, to jest gra napisana przez francuskie studio, ale również gracze innych narodowości w nią grają.

Edit:
That's all I wanted to say, haters gonna hate

[Florenzius]

Right! I know other communities, there are ~1000000 players and the atmosphere is good...

[plopp]

You made Combo, which is 9001 times more exciting than Elite. Mode where players stay in non-stop fights, can pick up items and switch weapons, but NO. Elite is better.

Elite is a better mode. Not better as in more fun but better as in more complete. If they would care about Combo and try to make it more balanced I would completely agree with you.

6. Obstacle
Guys, this is SHOOTER game, not a Mirrors Edge multiplayer copy or TrackMania without cars. Plz.

I'm assuming this part isn't serious. Otherwise you kinda ruin the point you tried to make originally.

[novationx]

I think the players' attitude reflects the game state and it's linked with eachother :/
I'm a competitive player, but I understand your post. I also think that Elite isnt that bad, but that's the mode we got introduced to and it sticked. Combo is cool(er), but NADEO doesnt even install it by default on our system. Weird decision by NADEO.

Anyways 1v3 is cool and unique compared to other games. I like the pressure when I need to win my attack when my team is watching me. I dont get that in other games. It aint all that bad =)


I also dont understand your problem with Obstacle? CSGO has surf & kz and nobody ever complained. The mode is cool in its very own unique way. If you dont like it, then simply play Combo? I have no problems with Obstacle being there and it's a custom-made title...

[TGYoshi]

While Elite is extremely dull for casual players like me, I actually really loved Combo, it's MUCH more fun. Main issue is that nobody is aware of its existence, though.
In the end it comes down to the flawed content sharing systems: titlepacks are too complex and a hassle for players instead of a transparent interface to custom content. Which will unlikely ever get fixed, anyway, especially since some functionality is locked behind titlepacks only.

[djhubertus]

Domino as president!

[aprror]

I think elite is cool. I love when somebody is watching me playing, it makes me play even better.

In some other modes where you only play for yourself and you make those great shots and stuff, you just feel 'whatever' because nobody sees you, much more casual (unless you record video, upload, share = too much work, lol).

But I agree with Obstacle, specially at nights theres only Obstacle servers crowded and its shame for shooter

And the usual offtopic of ideas,
I was thinking about 5 vs 5 mode for future SM sequel. At other corner you see one of your team buddys screen (with numpad you can choose who) and at other corner there is GPS you see where they are at.

/depending what guns there are/ Defenders has railguns and attackers has rockets. Made to be slow, deep and tactical mode, attackers cant just run into the spot because they have weak guns. They have to crawl in slowly, use tactcis how to take out the place.

Some activation system, no pole load system. Like some machine looking box, where you hit 20 times and it starts the activation timer. Once the timer starts one of the attackers has to run into the activation platform that is near the box.
From GPS all the players sees the platform flashing, so everybody knows where to head at. Only 1 guy is needed to stay at the activation platform for certain amount of time to win and others will/try to guard him.
Defenders has strong guns, so attacker cant just run and dip in, they have to plan the way to get there and stay focused.

[TheBigMiike]

6. Obstacle
Guys, this is SHOOTER game, not a Mirrors Edge multiplayer copy or TrackMania without cars. Plz.

Quite weird to read that from the creator of Pursuit...
Isn't Pursuit a copy from the same gamemode in Need For Speed ? Or Infection gamemode without StormMan ?

[Dommy]

6. Obstacle
Guys, this is SHOOTER game, not a Mirrors Edge multiplayer copy or TrackMania without cars. Plz.

Quite weird to read that from the creator of Pursuit...
Isn't Pursuit a copy from the same gamemode in Need For Speed ? Or Infection gamemode without StormMan ?

Tbh, Pursuit is TrackMania mode and it was ported once into Storm as the new Hide and Seek, but nobody plays it now.

[Filipe1020]

I don't understand why ELITE is all over the place, it's the worst and less fun gamemode (what's so fun to wait for a round to end so you can die with one shot or have three players against you?) I missed the times where there were Battle and Combo servers, those actually made me want to keep playing back then, now it's just elite and a few obstacle servers, and I almost want a refund of the game, money wasted for sure.