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Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by BestNoob » 08 Nov 2019, 23:13

A lot .. a lot lot lot files of the clients are outdated as axample one is the
TimeAttack.Script.txt
its from 2013/2014 but Dedicated Server files are from 2017 / 2018 / 2019

Cant u integrate an update function for such files ? Maybe also a Duplicate finder with MD5 check :lol: i extracted so many files inside my documents i dk which are original and needed and which not.

And on the website some features are just useless or not working, this is just one:
https://www.maniaplanet.com/account/ded ... ers/helper

And the:
https://doc.maniaplanet.com is still outdated and missing informations ..
but thats no wonder when you delete useful edits (as example the edit i made via GitHub: https://github.com/BestNoob/documentation) :teub: :teub:


Here a list of other outdated links,stuff etc. i found:
How promoting a server as ladder server: http://wiki.maniaplanet.com/en/Dedicate ... _server.3F
In this Thread: viewtopic.php?f=459&t=15804
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Re: Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by HaagseSmurf » 09 Nov 2019, 10:08

BestNoob wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 23:13
A lot .. a lot lot lot files of the clients are outdated as axample one is the
TimeAttack.Script.txt
its from 2013/2014 but Dedicated Server files are from 2017 / 2018 / 2019

Cant u integrate an update function for such files ? Maybe also a Duplicate finder with MD5 check :lol: i extracted so many files inside my documents i dk which are original and needed and which not.
I dont understand why you even have these files.
You mention the timeattackscriptfile for example, which i dont have on my client side, so why do you have it?
And that is exactly the reason why its not updated, because you dont need them.
BestNoob wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 23:13
And on the website some features are just useless or not working, this is just one:
https://www.maniaplanet.com/account/ded ... ers/helper
You are referring to the playerpage, but that one works fine:
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BestNoob wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 23:13
And the:
https://doc.maniaplanet.com is still outdated and missing informations ..
I agree, it should be a bit more updated and complete.

Perhaps you should make a list of things you are missing and whats incorrect.
And then write it down how it should be corrected and post it here!

In that way you can help NADEO and also other players to improve the site and this forum in all things you have found.
Because only pinpointing is to easy imo and not helping anyone and you can be helpfull if you know whats wrong and tell how to correct it!
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Re: Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by Miss » 09 Nov 2019, 13:00

HaagseSmurf wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 10:08
You are referring to the playerpage, but that one works fine:
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This is far from "fine", if you try copypasting this everything is on 1 line. This page is broken.
BestNoob wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 23:13
but thats no wonder when you delete useful edits (as example the edit i made via GitHub: https://github.com/BestNoob/documentation) :teub: :teub:
I can give you one reason why a maintainer might be skeptical about merging your PR:

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You can see all the recently merged pull requests here: https://github.com/maniaplanet/document ... s%3Aclosed

There are definitely a lot of pull requests being merged still. If you want to have more focus put on your pull request, I suggest you write a comment with a reminder maybe asking for some feedback. ThaumicTom also gave you a thumbs down, so maybe ask him for some feedback on your changes, too.

I just wrote some feedback on your pull request myself. Hope it helps. :thumbsup:
BestNoob wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 23:13
A lot .. a lot lot lot files of the clients are outdated as axample one is the
TimeAttack.Script.txt
its from 2013/2014 but Dedicated Server files are from 2017 / 2018 / 2019
Just like Haagse, I'm also not sure what you're talking about here. Starting a game with the included TimeAttack.Script.txt I get the new UI and everything. The old scripts might just be old files you extracted at one point yourself, or took from an old server package.
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Re: Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by BestNoob » 09 Nov 2019, 13:55

Miss wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:00
HaagseSmurf wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 10:08
Thank you for editing it.
I dont like wikipedia, github etc. i think this does everything more complicated than needed.
There is no user friendly formatting, handling etc. i really did my best and used the formatting the guy created the page used before.

And just becasue one guy think my changes are not needed desnt mean that this informations/changes i made arent important for another person!
Also a think i really dislike on github, wikipedia and similar systems. When knowledge got deleted/lost or not listed because of one dumb person, that decides it is not neccessary for the wiki etc. If you want to go further you can go to psychological, social and mankind problems, people who are not able to do decicions without their ego, meaning etc. for me its a reason for thinking most ppl. are dumb :D because intelligence also means to be able to look onto a thing with objectivity and subjectivity. democracy VS dictatorship/monarchy

Enough text, lets get back to the TM stuff.


When you create a local LAN or online server from your client installation you still need this TimeAttack.Script.txt and seems that it is not loaded out of the titlepacks. Also the files for creating a Titlepack etc. seems to be outdated i found newer inside your MP Updates.

It look like you changed the way its loaded so that the game should load itself from out of the update files/titlepacks but this doesnt work, often still need to select a local file and they are outdated.
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Re: Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by Miss » 09 Nov 2019, 13:59

BestNoob wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:55
When you create a local LAN or online server from your client installation you still need this TimeAttack.Script.txt and seems that it is not loaded out of the titlepacks. Also the files for creating a Titlepack etc. seems to be outdated i found newer inside your MP Updates.

It look like you changed the way its loaded so that the game should load itself from out of the update files/titlepacks but this doesnt work, often still need to select a local file and they are outdated.
Nope, I don't have the script anywhere in my game directory. It's coming straight from the titlepacks for me. I didn't have to extract any file to disk at all :?
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Re: Client FILES, Documentation and PlayerPage are outdated !

Post by Dommy » 14 Nov 2019, 21:23

BestNoob wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:55
When you create a local LAN or online server from your client installation you still need this TimeAttack.Script.txt and seems that it is not loaded out of the titlepacks. Also the files for creating a Titlepack etc. seems to be outdated i found newer inside your MP Updates.
Miss wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:59
Nope, I don't have the script anywhere in my game directory. It's coming straight from the titlepacks for me. I didn't have to extract any file to disk at all :?
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Looks like the online modes are not bundled with the title packs. They're in the TrackMania_extras.zip inside PacksCache, aka bundled globally for all TrackMania titles together (alongside with their dependencies):

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BestNoob wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:55
It look like you changed the way its loaded so that the game should load itself from out of the update files/titlepacks but this doesnt work, often still need to select a local file and they are outdated.
I have checked the latest dedicated package and all files there seem to be the up to date. It's your responsibility to keep your dedicated installation up to date, automatic server software updates tend to break compatibility on multiple levels, especially when it's a major (API incompatible) update.


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09 Nov 2019, 13:55
When knowledge got deleted/lost or not listed because of one dumb person, that decides it is not neccessary for the wiki etc. If you want to go further you can go to psychological, social and mankind problems, people who are not able to do decicions without their ego, meaning etc. for me its a reason for thinking most ppl. are dumb :D because intelligence also means to be able to look onto a thing with objectivity and subjectivity. democracy VS dictatorship/monarchy
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